Dubai: Another Megatall Proposal | PROPOSED [Archive]

malec

Dec 10, 2006, 2:43 PM

There seems to be a competition underway for a new megatall tower to be built in DIFC (which is between the emirates towers and burj dubai). The first proposal was found a few weeks ago and is designed by Norr International who also did the emirates towers. Judge the height yourself :)

http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg

This second one is by Atkins. It's basically a WTF were they thinking type of thing. It looks seriously ill with spots, a bit of blood splattered here and there and a big massive tumor sticking out the side. Keep in mind they've designed loads of great towers like the burj al arab and the WTC in Bahrain which is one of my favourite towers anywhere so they're not bad architects. Why the hell would they propose something like this? :weird:
(pic taken by Altin at cityscape)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/ATKINS-DIFCCentral.jpg

Altin said there were more proposals on display.

BTW I don't really like the first one either. It's a great tower but is too big and dwarfs all the others including rose rotana and all of those which are in that area.

mdiederi

Dec 10, 2006, 2:55 PM

The first one looks like a typical Dubai building and wouldn't look too out of place.

But that second one is just freaky looking. :sly:

Benhamin

Dec 10, 2006, 4:05 PM

Ya wtf is up with that second design? I like the first one a lot, however.

spyguy

Dec 10, 2006, 4:06 PM

The first is pretty cool.

Slugbelch

Dec 10, 2006, 4:17 PM

While surfing for BD stuff, I read a lengthy article about Dubai's proposals scheduled for the next 10 years that included this, but they mentioned that it won't go up. Besides, it looks way out of place next to the ET.

IMO, they should have built it in place of the Dubai Mall tower. I think it would have complimented the BD and the BD Lake Tower well with some height around the WTB.

Rise To The Top

Dec 10, 2006, 4:47 PM

and what will occupy this building again? air?

malec

Dec 10, 2006, 5:19 PM

Fury

Dec 10, 2006, 5:30 PM

Hi all.
I would like to read that too.
Nice find again Slugbelch - added to my faves - http://www.putzmeister.de/gb/einsatz/burj/default.asp
A few more good new ( old ) pics and info in there. :cheers:

Fabb

Dec 10, 2006, 5:42 PM

The second design looks like it's made by and for aliens.

bobdreamz

Dec 10, 2006, 5:47 PM

the first pic is actually very impressive but the second looks like pretzel sticks!

Bergenser

Dec 10, 2006, 8:45 PM

I vote for the first!

Fabb

Dec 10, 2006, 9:21 PM

Organic vs Post-Modern ?
If only the organic design wasn't so radical... I mean, it would be easy to turn it into something nice.

malec

Dec 10, 2006, 10:16 PM

Strange that the 2nd proposal was designed by the same guys that did beauties like the burj al arab and bahrain wtc. Looks like they were taking the piss out of this competition or something :)

NYguy

Dec 11, 2006, 1:49 PM

http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg

It would be too bad if that one doesn't get built. That's one design where the super-spire is justified, though it looks to be half the height of the tower itself.

SLKRR

Dec 11, 2006, 2:45 PM

I agree that the second one is hideous. It makes the new twizzler version of the Chicago Spire look breathtaking. First one is pretty nice, however.

BANKofMANHATTAN

Dec 11, 2006, 2:59 PM

The first one looks decent & like any other Dubai megatall, the second one is a joke, i hope. It looks like an alien womb. :sly:

aaron38

Dec 11, 2006, 3:40 PM

I agree with the tumor comment for the second design. If you're going to design an organic building, then you have to follow the laws of organisms. So when a building bulges and curves, it looks muscular and not fat.
And if you design an organic building that looks like it has diseases and cancer, no one is going to want to live in it.

I read an article once about plans for a long term nuclear storage area, that would be toxic for thousands of years. They wanted warning signs that would span all languages and cultures, something that would still say "Stay the hell out!" 5000 years from now. One of the designs was similar to this. An organic structure that twisted and bulged, looking obviously sick.
Cancerous buildings are a bad idea.

NEWNANGuy

Dec 11, 2006, 9:01 PM

i actually like the first design and i think it's blend well with the Emirates (especially) and the rest of Dubai. the second one looks like something out of some horrible 70's sci fi B film. please, make it stop!!!!

rbowk

Dec 12, 2006, 9:29 AM

i like the first design

gixer

Dec 12, 2006, 3:26 PM

Yep, the first one looks good. Would be interesting to see that between Emirates Towers and Burj Dubai. The second one is awful...:hell:

BANKofMANHATTAN

Dec 12, 2006, 4:07 PM

Dubai just gets too overwhelming for me. Yeah they have a ton of huge buildings but it seems too overdone - it has no substance.

There's so many buildings that it's unexciting to me when they get another 20 supertalls, and have to build mega-talls just to make a break in the skyline.

I look at it kind of like Las Vegas, but in the east. If there's a city for excessiveness, then both of those are definitely the appropriate candidates.

I think in Duba's case, everything is pretty new, thus you get less variation in building design.

:shrug:

Sky Tower

Dec 12, 2006, 7:48 PM

I quite like the first building. Looks like another 700m+ tower if you include the pinnacle. The second one's freaky lookin', which normally means it will probably get built!

malec

Dec 12, 2006, 8:18 PM

^^ I estimate 580m for the first one.

Actually all the dubai towers built so far seem fairly normal, I also recon some of the weirdest proposals will get redesigned if they want to build them

nezzybaby

Dec 13, 2006, 3:11 PM

I think in Duba's case, everything is pretty new, thus you get less variation in building design.

:shrug:

im sorry did you just look at those two pictures and decide that dubai need MORE variety??

As with most people here i think the first one looks great, the second is just a step too far really

BANKofMANHATTAN

Dec 13, 2006, 6:08 PM

im sorry did you just look at those two pictures and decide that dubai need MORE variety??

As with most people here i think the first one looks great, the second is just a step too far really

Yes, that's what i did. :sly:

No, was merely saying that the fact of the matter is, older cities have more variation - i meant through time, building styles/materials change. Not between the buildings themselves in Dubai, of course they vary regardless unless they get the multi-tower syndrome where they like to build 2-10 of the same damn thing.

malec

Dec 13, 2006, 6:55 PM

I'm not too fond of either proposal. The first looks good by itsself but doesn't fit into the context (dwarfs all the szr towers) and doesn't have much that's special about it. A nice tower but pretty boring
The second is certainly not boring and definitely makes a statement but goes a tad too far. Some people like to compare architecture with sculpture or some other art but it really is not the same. Why? Because if you make something ugly people will go to the museum and either say "yuck" or "hmm, interesting" or "wow, what a change from the norm" but once they leave the museum everything is back to normal. With a building, especially a tall one the general public will have to endure your piece of shit for decades and there's no escaping it. I know if I was a kid this thing would scare the shit out of me, I could easily imagine a kid walking out of the DIFC metro station and seeing this tower above them and start crying their eyes out :D)
In art you don't have to care what everyone else thinks but in architecture you DO because you design your building for the general public and is to be used by them, etc.

Lecom

Dec 13, 2006, 9:55 PM

The first one is great. However, I'm not too fond of one Twin Tower f*cking another with a STD'd wang covered in spots.

Sky Tower

Dec 13, 2006, 11:41 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth! :haha:

Patrick

Dec 14, 2006, 2:46 AM

Love the 1st design, simple but ionic. Eww, the other design is getting it on, um while getting shot at get a room please. :)

malec

Feb 18, 2007, 3:37 AM

For the challenge I decided to model the 2nd one in sketchup. Here are the results :D

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2038/bigfatmapwhiteam1.jpg

Sacto

Feb 18, 2007, 10:10 AM

Love the first design. The second one sucks.

westsider

Feb 18, 2007, 11:32 AM

You gotta admidt that #2 would surely be an world reconized icon if built. For that reason alone I kinda like it, also because I would'nt have to look at it every day.

phillyskyline

Feb 18, 2007, 5:31 PM

First design reminds me of the Burj Al Arab Hotel on steroids, lol... But I like the design, it's bold and I like the curved lines.

JBinCalgary

Feb 20, 2007, 2:47 AM

first one is ok, second is out to lunch

DUBAI2015

Feb 21, 2007, 12:39 AM

1st one is Way better. The second one looks like two deformed towers joined at the waist!

JACKinBeantown

Feb 21, 2007, 5:08 AM

The firs toption is boring... nothing new... things like it being done already. The second on is just butt-ugly. How about a third option?

malec

Oct 21, 2007, 10:11 PM

Another proposal for this:

Cityscape 2007 , Perkins+Will

DIFC Central Complex,Dubai

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2160/imresolt046pf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1676/imresolt047vv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5736/imresolt048sq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2876/imresolt049dd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Surrealplaces

Oct 21, 2007, 11:15 PM

The first one looks much like the many other mega-talls in Dubai, the second one is just plain ridiculous. There's a point where you try too hard and you end up with something like that.

The first tower, would like like all the other towers in Dubai, but would look good in alot of other cities.

Dac150

Oct 21, 2007, 11:25 PM

The first one I think is boring. The second one looks like it came from Mars.

To be honest, the whole concept is getting played out. Don't get me wrong, I like Dubai, but this whole proposal falls under: TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING.

dallasbrink

Oct 22, 2007, 12:47 AM

id take the first one
the second design was flat out retarded

SNT1

Oct 22, 2007, 5:11 AM

What the flying **** is that? :yuck:

KevinFromTexas

Oct 22, 2007, 5:43 AM

I like that first one. Very sleek. The 2nd one looks really odd with all that mess about midway up.

dallasbrink

Oct 22, 2007, 6:38 AM

here's an idea.

Construction of any new tower not already under construction doesn't happen. They sit back and see that half the towers cant be filled. They see there robe covered friends loose all there oil money and go broke, then buy there towers and turn a profit instead of building another un-needed monstrosity in a city that is a slap to the face of architecture.