Midwest Highrise Construction

[Steely Dan]

here's a roundup of all the 300+ ft. projects under construction and proposed in midwest cities (excluding chicago).

please correct any errors or omissions.



Midwest 300+' Highrise Projects:


Under Construction:

MILWAUKEE | NML Tower | 550 ft. | 35 floors

http://media.bizj.us/view/img/1079461/northwesternmutualrendering.jpg




MILWAUKEE | 777 N Van Buren | 387 ft. | 34 floors

https://www.northwesternmutual.com/~/media/nmcom/images/building%20mke/777%20n%20van%20buren/777-southeast-450.ashx?la=en




MINNEAPOLIS | 365 Nicollet | 334 ft. | 32 floors

http://2w5swnzapmf232d0u3vwgc1u.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ritz-blockopusrendering-750xx2541-3388-754-0.jpg















Site Prep/Demo:


MILWAUKEE | The Couture | 537 ft. | 44 floors

https://s17.postimg.org/h2hqg3o0f/Cynl_Kg_SUQAAsel_T.jpg














Proposed:

DETROIT | Hudsons block | 734 ft. | 52 floors

http://imgur.com/JwJ6kxth.jpg



CLEVELAND | nuCLEus | 647 ft. | 54 floors

http://image.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/01/08/20150108-v07-from-huronjpg-0a5bcf07c6c5a88a.jpg




MINNEAPOLIS | The Gateway | 530 ft. | 35 floors

http://i.imgur.com/SLFwFJg.jpg




MINNEAPOLIS | 200 Central | 483 ft. | 41 floors

http://i.imgur.com/gVhwPSF.jpg




GRAND RAPIDS | 10 Ionia | 418 ft. | 40 floors

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width960/img/grandrapidspress/photo/2016/08/15/-44d349ad5bbadd14.JPG




ST. LOUIS | One Hundred | 385 ft. | 36 floors

https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/170/30680440194_bdeec95b84_b.jpg




CLAYTON | Centene Tower II | 380 ft. | 28 floors

https://nextstl.com/wp-content/uploads/Centene_12-16_21-e1481314008514.png




CLEVELAND | Weston Tower A | 360 ft. | 30+ floors

http://image.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/11/19/-189e02cb5065c47d.jpg




CLEVELAND | 515 Euclid | 338 ft. | 28 floors

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2017/02172017/image/fullsize/The_Beacon_01.jpg




MILWAUKEE | BMO Harris Financial Center | 335 ft. | 25 floors

http://i.imgur.com/3CmG0o9h.jpg




DES MOINES | 701 Walnut | ~330 ft. | 33 floors

http://www.urbandsm.com/images/projects/downtown/Blackbird_Tower/Renderings/2016Sep/2016Septblackbird_26.jpg




ST. LOUIS | BPV2 | 320 ft. | 29 floors

https://nextstl.com/wp-content/uploads/BPV-II_4.jpg




DES MOINES | The Fifth | ~320 ft. | 32 floors

http://www.urbandsm.com/images/projects/downtown/The_Fifth/Renderings/Mandelbaum_Tower/mandelbaum_fifth_walnutb.jpg




MINNEAPOLIS | 333 E Hennepin l | 318 ft. | 28 floors

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5805/19926812994_a944f361e8_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/wmS8gh)333Henn (https://flic.kr/p/wmS8gh) by grant.simons (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126671707@N04/), on Flickr

[eomaha]

Boy, before long... we're going to have to exclude the twin cities from this list as well. :D

[ColDayMan]

I suppose to add on, Dayton has a CareSource Tower (which site preparation is u/c as we speak) and is well over 300 feet as well. No rendering but...

The building would rank as the fifth largest office tower in downtown Dayton, larger than Fifth Third Center, which has 295,000 square feet of leasable space. The Kettering Tower is the largest tower at 441,000 square feet. Construction on the proposed building is scheduled to begin in January 2007 and completed by October 2008.

FYI, the Fifth Third Tower is 328 feet, I believe, and the lot sized of the CareSource Tower is smaller, thus it'll be taller.


Columbus has a Hyatt Regency expansion (which is pushing 300 feet, if not over) on the drawing boards as well.

And of course, Covington has the Nike Swoosh...err...Ascent @ Roebling (which is well over 300 feet) and Newport has fourish 300+ footers proposed (Overture, SouthShore Condos, etc).

When I get exact heights, I'll tell ya.

[Suburban Lou]

Nothing in the Bottle District under construction.

[Steely Dan]

Nothing in the Bottle District under construction.


really? the SSP database lists the first one as being "under construction". so, the database is incorrect?

[ColDayMan]

I have no idea why Emporis has Ascent @ Roebling listed at 293, as it has been said it will be the tallest building in Covington (as Covington's tallest is currently 308 feet).

[Sirus]

Thanks for making this!

More from Minnneapolis

Approved:

Pillsbury A Mill Building E (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=pillsburymillbuildinge-minneapolis-mn-usa)
27 stories | 324 ft

Proposed:

Loring Park/Eitel Building (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=1368lasalleavenuenue-minneapolis-mn-usa)
38 stories | 432 ft

Pacific Flats Condominiums (http://www.thepacificliving.com/)
28 stories | 305 ft

Edit:
I wasn't sure if 30 stories was the limit even if it's supposed to be 300+ feet.
Looks like you've already got the Loring one as well. So this was probably a useless post haha.

[JMedwick]

I will throw out a few changes/ additions to the St. Louis list.

1st, none of the Bottle District is under construction. It's future is up in the air, with Ghazi out and no clear direction. The images shown last year of future towers will likely not happen.

2nd. The Rennaisance on Euclid has been cut way back, to like a 8-10 story building I belive, so it should be removed from the list.

3rd. No new info on the MW Tower. Maybe with the Ballpark Village financing for phase 1 done, maybe we will hear some new info on it.

4th. The Lindell Condominuims Tower should be included, as its height is expected to reach 28 stories and progress has been made on the applicaiton.

5th. The Ballpark Village is moving forward, with an announcement today that funding has been finalized for phase 1, which will inlcude a 22-25 story Condo tower in phase 1. If the market demands it, phases 2 and 3 will include two more towers, both of which are belived to be taller than the phase 1 tower.

[Steely Dan]

1st, none of the Bottle District is under construction. It's future is up in the air, with Ghazi out and no clear direction. The images shown last year of future towers will likely not happen.

so, with the project all up in the air with no clear future, should all of the "proposed" bottle district towers be removed for now? i'm incline dto think so.






4th. The Lindell Condominuims Tower should be included, as its height is expected to reach 28 stories and progress has been made on the applicaiton.

it will be included if it's height is determined to be over 300', otherwise, i'm only inlcuding buildings 30 stories or taller if the heiight figure is unknown.

[JMedwick]

^ Fair enough. We should hopfuly know more in the near future about the Lindell Condos.

As for the Bottle District, I think it is a contentious topic amoung St. Louis forumers. I fall on the side of those who think the project is dead in the water, at least in the forum proposed in the past year (condo towers). The ower of the site fired Ghazi and is now in talks with HRI and some other developers, as per a recent STL Biz Journal story. The site has been cleared, but there has been no other progress. There have been updates that the nessisary aldermatic legislation is being passed, but no other info. So no one know what is going on, only that the folks who produced the past renderings, including Ghazi and Forum Studios are out and some new folks are in, which means new renderings of what might happen are likely. I say it should be gone, but I am sure there are many others who would disagree.

[Michi]

Great idea for a thread!

Just to contribute a bit of information:

Grand Rapids River House (the tower on the left)
http://www.gftforex.com/temp/joestuff/final-river-house-pic.jpg

Grand Rapids' JW Marriott - as of September 04, 2006. River House will rise on the far left right next to Bridgewater Place.
http://downtownmotown.8k.com/North/2006_0904MI09_02-04_060046.jpg

http://downtownmotown.8k.com/North/2006_0904MI09_02-04_060015.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g242/mau_photos/RiverHousefromBridge2.jpg

[Michi]

There's a few cranes on site at the Greektown Casino, Detroit drilling the foundation, but it still doesn't look much different than this photo:
http://downtownmotown.8k.com/DetroitDevelopment/2006_0916DetConstruct09_16_060025.jpg
Sept. 16, 2006

http://downtownmotown.8k.com/Detroit%20September/2006_0929AroundDetroit9_29_060043.jpg
Sept. 29, 2006

[skyfan]

Greektown Hotel
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j280/BarGal/greektownrendering.jpg

[Steely Dan]

As for the Bottle District, I think it is a contentious topic amoung St. Louis forumers. I fall on the side of those who think the project is dead in the water, at least in the forum proposed in the past year (condo towers). The ower of the site fired Ghazi and is now in talks with HRI and some other developers, as per a recent STL Biz Journal story. The site has been cleared, but there has been no other progress. There have been updates that the nessisary aldermatic legislation is being passed, but no other info. So no one know what is going on, only that the folks who produced the past renderings, including Ghazi and Forum Studios are out and some new folks are in, which means new renderings of what might happen are likely. I say it should be gone, but I am sure there are many others who would disagree.

that to me sounds like it's a no-go for now, at least in the previously envisioned plan, so i'm taking the bottle district towers off the list. if something else pops up there with skyscrapers, that would be great, and i'll add those towers if and when they become known.


thanks to everyone else for the images. keep 'em coming, i'd like to get an image for every single project on the list. cincy, indy, st. paul and omaha, i'm looking at you.

[Navin]

Carlyle rendering:

http://www.minnescraper.com/content/images/stories/Carlyle_day_rendering.jpg

Carlyle recent construction shot:

http://www.minnescraper.com/content/images/stories/files/img_3187_190.jpg

From http://www.minnescraper.com/

[Steely Dan]

^ thanks for the better carlyle rendering navin.

[Cincinnatis]

Colday, what about the Eden Park Tower, how many feet is that?

http://www.theoverlookatedenpark.com/images/3-3-06-overlook-lake.jpg

South Shore Condos:
http://k53.pbase.com/o4/73/280873/1/56481484.SouthshoreCondos.jpg

The Ascent:
http://k53.pbase.com/o4/73/280873/1/56568000.LibeskindAscent.jpg

Queen City Square Phase I & II:
http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/cmgr/images/cmgr_img9220.jpg

[Sirus]

the 401 Residences was revised to this:

http://www.colinkulow.com/twincityscape/401hotel.jpg

but it's on hold now until the market catches up, so it's not clear if it will even get built.

[eomaha]

Here's Omaha's forthcoming 373 foot residential tower... second from left...

http://204.26.90.252/gallery/develop/163/pic2.jpg

[ColDayMan]

I'm pretty sure that the Ascent @ Roebling and the tallest of the South Shore condos are over 300 feet.

[Paintballer1708]

Is south shore going on the Kentucky side, or the Ohio side of the border?

[LMich]

South Shore.

[Wheelingman04]

This is an awesome thread.

[Ecker]

Another Carlyle update construction photo. Taken 10/27/2006.
http://static.flickr.com/106/280890153_95a221751b.jpg

[Midwesterner]

One Market Square's status is still in the air, due to poor sale (for a variety of reasons), they've been given until Thanksgiving to come up with a new or revized plan.

There's another proposal for Indianapolis, the InterContinental Hotel. It's 44 stories and is expected to be the city's second tallest (so it's over 530 ft.).

A few renderings from IndyBob over at SSC

http://www.oongawa.com/dt/ic3.jpg

http://www.oongawa.com/dt/ic4.jpg

http://www.oongawa.com/dt/ic1.jpg

http://www.oongawa.com/dt/ic2.jpg

I'll try to dig up the day time rendering, it's around here somewhere.

[the urban politician]

This is an incredibly good idea for a thread, Steely.

Just curious, though--why are you using 300 ft as a cutoff here as opposed to the 12 story cutoff you're using in the Chicago superthread? Also, I noticed you put an Evanston highrise on the list. Does that mean we should include Chicago suburban highrises here as well?

[DeadManWalking]

KC's biggest projects are all under 300 feet.

[STLgasm]

Nothing proposed for Cleveland?

[Steely Dan]

Just curious, though--why are you using 300 ft as a cutoff here as opposed to the 12 story cutoff you're using in the Chicago superthread?

because i had to make a cut-off somewhere and i didn't feel like keeping track of every 15 story marriott suites proposal in suburban bumblefuck midwest. 300' is incredibly arbitrary, but it's a height that i feel seperates skyscrapers from mere highrises in most midwest cities and i'm really only interested in seeing what the tallest projects in the region are.





Also, I noticed you put an Evanston highrise on the list. Does that mean we should include Chicago suburban highrises here as well?

i included the evanston proposal because evanston doesn't get enough credit for itself being so completely hidden under the chicago shadow. if there were any other suburban chicago proposals that were 300+'/30+ floors, i would have included them as well, but currently no such projects exist.

[Onward]

Wow Minneapolis has some great proposals

[zaceman]

Nothing proposed for Cleveland?

The only thing that is really vertical proposed for downtown Cleveland is 515 Euclid Avenue. Which at 26 stories would be in the 300+ ft range.

http://www.desman.com/hotproperty/task,view/id,59/Itemid,168/

Most everything else is clusters of residential or mixed use collections of buildings being built in phases one at a time in the 5-15 story range.

[CGII]

Pretty cool to see Milwaukee has the second tallest buliding under construction in the Midwest, right now.

I hadn't until now seen renderings of the Greektown;
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j280/BarGal/greektownrendering.jpg
But the first thing to pop in my mind was this:it reminds me of a waterd down version of the Ruvin proposal for Milwaukee, even though Greektown's design likely came first.
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1798_large.jpg
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1792_large.jpg

[altfelix]

A few notes on buildings listed.

In Minneapolis:

The Carlyle is 469 ft/41 floors. This information comes directly from blueprints, and is revised down from 473 as originally published.

Two Twenty Two is 375 ft. This comes from the documentation submitted to the Minneapolis Planning Commission, which was approved. That rendering is the version that was approved, by Durrant Architects. They've since changed architects, but no rendering has been released

Eitel Hospital should be renamed. That elevation drawing is of the residential tower approved for 1368 LaSalle Avenue. The adjacent block contains the old hospital and is being renovated into apartments by the same developer.

In St. Paul:

The Penfield is 33 floors.

The Westin St. Paul is estimated around 364 ft. This comes from the Urban Areawide Review Mitigation Plan submitted in December 2004 to the State of Minnesota and City of St. Paul, and approved by the FAA (the site is moderately close to Holman Field, St. Paul's downtown airport, but not under a runway).


In Covington:

The Ascent at Roebling's Bridge in Covington is 293 ft. This comes from the project superintendent at Danis Building Company, the GC.

[Wheelingman04]

Damn, Indy is getting some nice towers. So is Minneapolis.

[MattnSTL]

The Lindell aka Lindell Condominiums will be 310'. It will be 26 floors above grade and 2 below. $93 million in cost. I have all the info on it that you could ever possibly want from a meeting last year between opponents and the alderwoman for the area. Some NIMBY's from the surrounding streets tryed to get it cancelled, but lost. I got a front row seat during an internship with the alderwoman for the area.

http://upload.pbase.com/citylover/image/58683960/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/citylover/image/58726520.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/citylover/image/58726985.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/citylover/image/58726987.jpg

[village person]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1792_large.jpg

OMG, OMG, OMG! :hyper: It's the Cafe Wall illusion!! On a highrise!!! I'm so excited!!!! :ahhh: :hyper: :rock: :leek: :eeekk:


[/optical illusion nerdity]

[the urban politician]

The Lindell aka Lindell Condominiums will be 310'...

^ Has that started contruction yet? In my past several visits to STL I always saw signs for that but wondered when it would start.

That's a great development for the CWE

[MattnSTL]

^From what I understand, they are working on final details. The variance for the historic district has been granted, and that was the biggest hurdle. They seem to be wrapping up loose ends at this point. The schedule they released when these renderings came out had them wanting to start work in March or April 2007. I think this may get pushed back a couple of months because Opus has said that they want to start the Park East lofts project next to the Park East tower before they start The Lindell. The Park East Lofts are going to start construction once the staging area for the tower is cleaned up, because it is being built on this lot. The tower is nearly finished, and the some people are now moving in.

[the urban politician]

While I'm guessing that large highrise announcements are fairly infrequent in the greater midwest, this thread has the potential to be pretty significant, and I'd hate to see it have to get bumped all the time (esp since people may not know about its existence). This is skyscraperpage after all. Any thoughts about getting it stickied?

[Steely Dan]

^ i suppose i could sticky it if enough people felt that such a move is warranted. who agrees? disagrees?

[the pope]

^is this a strict u/c thread or are we going to post every tom dick and jane proposed/approved 300-footer?

[the urban politician]

^is this a strict u/c thread or are we going to post every tom dick and jane proposed/approved 300-footer?

^ Well, there's already a 'proposed' section on page one, if that answers your question

[Steely Dan]

^is this a strict u/c thread or are we going to post every tom dick and jane proposed/approved 300-footer?


the latter. as urb said, see the first post on page 1.

[toddguy]

Columbus has a Hyatt Regency expansion (which is pushing 300 feet, if not over) on the drawing boards as well.



You have any other info on the Hyatt expansion to share? I had not even heard of this.

[Avian001]

Here's a rendering of the Westin St. Paul that Steely asked for. It's obviously the taller tower on the right. It's part of the massive Bridges of St. Paul (http://www.thebridgesofsaintpaul.com/) project.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6066/westinsaintpaul02vv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Avian001]

Here's another of the Westin.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/2687/westinsaintpaul03xj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[erasercut]

There is a Four Seasons hotel currently under construction on the St. Louis riverfront and I understand that it's going to be over 300 ft.

[ColDayMan]

You have any other info on the Hyatt expansion to share? I had not even heard of this.

There is a thread about it at UrbanOhio's P&C forum. It along with two other condo towers currently u/c (though I don't know their heights, they are atleast pushing 300).

[the urban politician]

There is a Four Seasons hotel currently under construction on the St. Louis riverfront and I understand that it's going to be over 300 ft.

^ Any renderings?

[MattnSTL]

The renderings are below. It will be 25 floors, so it could be tall enough. I can't find an actual height.

http://www.boomtownneworleans.com/images/FinalRenderingDay.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6263/pinnacledaytimecityl0vq.jpg

[SmileyBoy]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1792_large.jpg

This building is so atrocious, it makes me want to cry.:dead:

[toddguy]

There is a thread about it at UrbanOhio's P&C forum. It along with two other condo towers currently u/c (though I don't know their heights, they are atleast pushing 300).
I checked it out. There was a pic of the proposal..*shudder*. I guess they just want it to match the ugly dark sideways slab-on-stilts that is already there...of which the only saving grace is that it was limited to 20 floors(fortunately).
There is a ColDayMan that is listed as the adminstrator there..that would be you right?

[ColDayMan]

I checked it out. There was a pic of the proposal..*shudder*. I guess they just want it to match the ugly dark sideways slab-on-stilts that is already there...of which the only saving grace is that it was limited to 20 floors(fortunately).
There is a ColDayMan that is listed as the adminstrator there..that would be you right?

Yes, that would be me.

And here is the rendering:

http://www.dispatch.com/2006/08/24/20060824-Pc-F1-0900.jpg

[Chef]

The proposal for the "Bridges of St Paul" project was withdrawn by the developer yesterday which means no Westin Tower for St Paul. Something will probably be built there but I doubt it will be a tower.

The article:
www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/15902635.htm

[CGII]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1792_large.jpg

This building is so atrocious, it makes me want to cry.:dead:
To each his own, I guess. This is one of my favourite projects in the country.

[Steely Dan]

The proposal for the "Bridges of St Paul" project was withdrawn by the developer yesterday which means no Westin Tower for St Paul. Something will probably be built there but I doubt it will be a tower.

The article:
www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/15902635.htm

that's too bad. i guess i'll have to take it off the list on page 1.

[Chef]

that's too bad. i guess i'll have to take it off the list on page 1.The project was probably never going to happen anyway. The developer was fishing for a $120 million subsidy from the city. That is a lot of money for a city the size of St Paul. Had it gone forward St Paul ran the risk of subsidising a project that could crash the city condo market and cut property tax revenues. It just didn't make sense to do it.

IMO the cancellation of the Bridges makes the Penfield much more likely to happen.

[altfelix]

I agree wholeheartedly with Drewcifer. The Disneyesque components notwithstanding, Bridges was still the wrong project for the wrong site at the wrong time.

[Exodus]

Pretty cool to see Milwaukee has the second tallest buliding under construction in the Midwest, right now.

I hadn't until now seen renderings of the Greektown;
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j280/BarGal/greektownrendering.jpg
But the first thing to pop in my mind was this:it reminds me of a waterd down version of the Ruvin proposal for Milwaukee, even though Greektown's design likely came first.
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1798_large.jpg
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1792_large.jpgNo ffense, but I don't care for either of them. And why wasn't the 71 storie building in St. Louis mentioned ??

[Xing]

These 3 in St Louis are a go, I believe.

http://static.flickr.com/111/280829979_a1c6037ba6.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/87/280829622_f8aa3b45e7.jpg

[The-New-Tony-Detroit]

More generally tasteful, glassy buidlings like Greektown in Detroit are sorely needed...

[doomtrain]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/17/1792_large.jpg

This building is so atrocious, it makes me want to cry.:dead:

I disagree. That building is awesome.

[Steely Dan]

^ yes, the ruvin proposal in milwaukee is spectacular (even though it's under 300' and doesn't really belong in this thread). it's the most interesting highrise project on the drawing boards in any midwestern city outside of chicago at the current moment. if anyone can think of a cooler midwestern highrise proposal, please let me know.

[LMich]

Yeah, I couldn't see how people were calling it ugly. It's easily one of the most creative designs coming out of the Midwest, at the moment. This is the kind of stuff you see going up in Europe, at the moment, whose attempts at moving past post modernism has been largely successful, IMO.

[Rizzo]

Yeah the Milwaukee building looks alright. Actually the rendering looks kind of ugly, but i can see the building looking nice in reality.

Although, as far as European architecture goes, most of the new stuff they are building isn't all that attractive IMO.

[Exodus]

It might be considered chic, but it aint pretty. And neither is Greektown.

[Rizzo]

^ I do understand what you mean by that. One of my instructors in architecture school in reguards to similar facades like this would say "everybody is doing this type of thing, it's really in style." Such a statement worries me, because architecture should never be "in style" Architecture being a fad is far worse. The reasons should be backed up somehow. I think what bothers people the most about these types of buildings is the facade as a wrapper. To many it cheapens the look of the building because in past architecture, the facade was an expression of order and construction of the building. I do in some instances find this building to have a cheaper look to it, but I can see what the architects are trying to get at, and do believe this design has some high value. I just hope that it won't have the ugly colored gray panels I see on it. As far as Greektown goes, I think it's pretty good. The brick base is a gesture towards the materials used on the surrounding buildings. The blue glass tower will be a welcome addition since many of the surrounding towers are ugly concrete.

[secondson]

Cincinnati - Queen City Square II - 689'/37 floors
http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/queencitysquare-1.jpg

As a Cincinnati native, I really think this building is stunning. It will really make a beautiful enhancement to the skyline. (Although I'm curious about why they didn't just make it an even 700'. But hey, it's taller than Carew Tower. :tup: )

A couple of questions...if anyone knows:

- Is this a definite thing? Is there a date for groundbreaking?

- Who is the architect? I'd love to check out their website.

Thanks.

[Exodus]

Cincinnati - Queen City Square II - 689'/37 floors
http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/queencitysquare-1.jpg

As a Cincinnati native, I really think this building is stunning. It will really make a beautiful enhancement to the skyline. (Although I'm curious about why they didn't just make it an even 700'. But hey, it's taller than Carew Tower. :tup: )

A couple of questions...if anyone knows:

- Is this a definite thing? Is there a date for groundbreaking?

- Who is the architect? I'd love to check out their website.

Thanks. It has been approved, but they are waiting for a 100% lease rate before they break ground. At least this is what I read in an article a couple months back, and if it is so, then I suppose they are just being very cautious.

[The-New-Tony-Detroit]

http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/queencitysquare-1.jpg = :yuck:

The building itself isn't bad - its that yucky crown... While I don't deny Cincinnati could use more height - it really could do better than this as a new tallest.

[Cincinnatis]

http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/queencitysquare-1.jpg = :yuck:

The building itself isn't bad - its that yucky crown... While I don't deny Cincinnati could use more height - it really could do better than this as a new tallest.

ColDayMan hates the crown ... like I've said a million times and I don't care if this is in St. Louis, Detroit, or Atlanta ... I love this building. I love the building, the crown, it's little brother and the blue-ish grey tinted glass.

Seeing it as a drawing and seeing it in real life is going to be huge. To me, this has an art deco feel and I am glad that they didn't decide to build some kind of modern, cheap, ugly ass skyscraper.

I also like the idea of how the crown will be lit up and the lights blasting out of the top (mentioned early on - see urbanohio.com).

As soon as I get some time, I will try to re-create another realistic angle of the QCS Phase II.

[secondson]

It has been approved, but they are waiting for a 100% lease rate before they break ground. At least this is what I read in an article a couple months back, and if it is so, then I suppose they are just being very cautious.

100% lease rate? How far along are they? It would be a shame to see this project postponed too long while waiting for that to happen. I'm seeing a lot of threads at this site, referencing new buildings that are proposed, or in the process of being built. I wonder if they all attained 100% leases rates as well. Is that standard before starting construction on a building in other cities?

The building itself isn't bad - its that yucky crown... While I don't deny Cincinnati could use more height - it really could do better than this as a new tallest.

Maybe the crown is something the architect thought would be symbolic of Cincinnati's nickname as the "Queen City". Perhaps if the building itself were taller, with a less obvious crown, you would like it better. Is that what you mean? Or do you not like the style of the building itself? Could you show me what style you think would be better?

ColDayMan hates the crown ... like I've said a million times and I don't care if this is in St. Louis, Detroit, or Atlanta ... I love this building. I love the building, the crown, it's little brother and the blue-ish grey tinted glass.

Seeing it as a drawing and seeing it in real life is going to be huge. To me, this has an art deco feel and I am glad that they didn't decide to build some kind of modern, cheap, ugly ass skyscraper.

I also like the idea of how the crown will be lit up and the lights blasting out of the top (mentioned early on - see urbanohio.com).

As soon as I get some time, I will try to re-create another realistic angle of the QCS Phase II.

Who is ColDayMan? If the building was approved, does that mean the size of the project itself, or the design? Could the design still change? Would ColDayMan have something to do with that?

I agree with your thought regarding the materials to be used on the facade. I like the art deco appearance. Of course, I'm a HUGE fan of anything art deco. This building reminds me of the design of Carew Tower. Maybe that's what the architect had in mind - to evoke a sense of history mixed with the modern. Kinda like the new tallest will be reminiscent of the old tallest. Interesting concept.

Thanks for the information, guys. I really hope this goes up soon.

[Cincinnatis]

ColDayMan is like Jesus, except he wasn't sent by God.

[ColDayMan]

100% lease rate? How far along are they? It would be a shame to see this project postponed too long while waiting for that to happen. I'm seeing a lot of threads at this site, referencing new buildings that are proposed, or in the process of being built. I wonder if they all attained 100% leases rates as well. Is that standard before starting construction on a building in other cities?



Maybe the crown is something the architect thought would be symbolic of Cincinnati's nickname as the "Queen City". Perhaps if the building itself were taller, with a less obvious crown, you would like it better. Is that what you mean? Or do you not like the style of the building itself? Could you show me what style you think would be better?



Who is ColDayMan? If the building was approved, does that mean the size of the project itself, or the design? Could the design still change? Would ColDayMan have something to do with that?

I agree with your thought regarding the materials to be used on the facade. I like the art deco appearance. Of course, I'm a HUGE fan of anything art deco. This building reminds me of the design of Carew Tower. Maybe that's what the architect had in mind - to evoke a sense of history mixed with the modern. Kinda like the new tallest will be reminiscent of the old tallest. Interesting concept.

Thanks for the information, guys. I really hope this goes up soon.

I basically invented Cincinnati for SSP.

[secondson]

Not sure I understand. Are you a developer? Architect? Are you involved in building skyscrapers? What are your thoughts about this building for Cincinnati? Cincinnatis said you hate the crown. How come? I'd be interested in hearing what you think would work better for the site.

[village person]

That building looks like Don King

[MayorOfChicago]

Not sure I understand. Are you a developer? Architect? Are you involved in building skyscrapers? What are your thoughts about this building for Cincinnati? Cincinnatis said you hate the crown. How come? I'd be interested in hearing what you think would work better for the site.

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!!!!



I personally like the crown a lot.

[Avian001]

The Minneapolis Ivy Hotel + Residences (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/luxury/about/news_release_detail.html?obj_id=0900c7b9804b6218) is starting to climb fast. Photo courtesy of MidwestProduct from Minnescraper (http://www.minnescraper.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1).

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5019/ivyconstruction01ym7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[The-New-Tony-Detroit]

Not sure I understand. Are you a developer? Architect? Are you involved in building skyscrapers? What are your thoughts about this building for Cincinnati? Cincinnatis said you hate the crown. How come? I'd be interested in hearing what you think would work better for the site.

We are about to witness history unfold my friends. The weather forcast is calling for carnage ColDayStyle.

[ColDayMan]

Not sure I understand. Are you a developer? Architect? Are you involved in building skyscrapers? What are your thoughts about this building for Cincinnati? Cincinnatis said you hate the crown. How come? I'd be interested in hearing what you think would work better for the site.

Architect? I invented architecture.

Involved with building skyscrapers? I let the peasants do that.

Thoughts about this building? I think it's a gigantic jukebox that is a mixture of Rosie from The Jetsons and Pee Wee's Playhouse's toilet seat. It's trash. Cincinnati should've atleast built the giant "Heroin Needle" in Newport.

The crown? What crown? It's an elongated St. Louis Arch, filled in with Photoshop CS2, stretched in SketchUp, and plopped over a blue-shaded Chemed Center. It's bad. How can you like it? And THEN over the Convergys/Atrium towers...tsk tsk.

What would work better? Perhaps a glass structure about 500ish that would reflect Mt. Adams' Immaculata Church. Or maybe a giant palm tree with signs saying "Miami, Florida, 1,000 miles." ANYTHING but Robbie the Robot, please.

And on a serious note, if we are going to be building a "tallest" in Cincinnati, atLEAST put it on 5th and Race Street.

[Paintballer1708]

Im still waiting on the Banks. Till the Banks is finished, then it would be nice to see Queen City Square start.

[Nordeast Homer]

That building looks like Don King
:haha:
I can't believe that's someone's idea of a final draft. I honestly think it looks hideous. They did a nice job with 95% of the building, but you get to the "crown" and it looks like the building has had a bad hair day.:yuck:

[Steely Dan]

^ meh, i see it more as a bishops hat than a bad hair day, but whatever. the crown is so kooky that i actally kinda like it, and those that know me on this forum know that i am no fan of the postmodern, but this one is so extreme i think it works.

[secondson]

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!!!!



I personally like the crown a lot.

FIGHT? No, not at all. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and each person has their own different tastes and preferred styles. I'm still very new here, so I'm not trying to make waves. Just making conversation - trying to learn more about people and the projects they like (or dislike, in this case).

Architect? I invented architecture.

Involved with building skyscrapers? I let the peasants do that.

Thoughts about this building? I think it's a gigantic jukebox that is a mixture of Rosie from The Jetsons and Pee Wee's Playhouse's toilet seat. It's trash. Cincinnati should've atleast built the giant "Heroin Needle" in Newport.

The crown? What crown? It's an elongated St. Louis Arch, filled in with Photoshop CS2, stretched in SketchUp, and plopped over a blue-shaded Chemed Center. It's bad. How can you like it? And THEN over the Convergys/Atrium towers...tsk tsk.

What would work better? Perhaps a glass structure about 500ish that would reflect Mt. Adams' Immaculata Church. Or maybe a giant palm tree with signs saying "Miami, Florida, 1,000 miles." ANYTHING but Robbie the Robot, please.

And on a serious note, if we are going to be building a "tallest" in Cincinnati, atLEAST put it on 5th and Race Street.

Invented architecture, huh? Wow, you're still going pretty strong for your age! ;)

Well, nice to meet you. I guess we have differing opinions about the building design, but that's okay. As I said above, everyone has their own likes and dislikes. I think the crown is interesting, but maybe that won't be the final design for the building. (Or is it?)

[Avian001]

Cincinnati - Queen City Square II - 689'/37 floors
http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/queencitysquare-1.jpg


Separated at birth?

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3175/robby001ed8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ColDayMan]

^Thus, Robbie the Robot.

And don't worry secondson, you seem like a nice guy. But we'll agree to disagree about the crown.

[toddguy]

Hahahaha..now with that pic posted I will always associate this building with that robot. :D

[Cincinnatis]

^Thus, Robbie the Robot.

And don't worry secondson, you seem like a nice guy. But we'll agree to disagree about the crown.


*cough* ... *cough*

"You know, it doesn't look that bad at all in the model-rendering. I actually...kinda...like...it..." -ColDayMan April 21, 2005, 7:40:39 PM

:yes:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3170.210

I can't believe that's Phase I next to it, Phase II makes Phase I look like an extended lobby.
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3170.0;attach=425;image

[ColDayMan]

*cough* ... *cough*

That wasn't a model rendering shown previously but an artistic rendering.

Nice try, young one.

[Cincinnatis]

*cough* ... *cough*

That wasn't a model rendering shown previously but an artistic rendering.

Nice try, young one.

The rendering is irrelevent, but the building is not.

BTW, I'm older than you. ;)

[Avian001]

Robbie notwithstanding, I would think the space inside the crown would be breathtaking. Perfect for a ballroom or something like that. Does anyone know what it's supposed to be?

[ColDayMan]

The rendering is irrelevent, but the building is not.

BTW, I'm older than you. ;)

Since when is any mortal older than God?

Keep trying, rookie.

[Buckeye Native 001]

Shorten the crown but make the building taller so that if its going to be the new tallest, at least it'll beat the Carew Tower by a couple of floors.

And then I remind myself that this is Cincinnati we're talking about. It ain't gonna get built.

[Exodus]

I don't mind the crown, though it looks like a giant clam. Then again it kind of reminds me of the Chrysler crown, but flattened.

I just looked at the close up pic, and it looks like a fan.

[Exodus]

Separated at birth?

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3175/robby001ed8.jpg (http://imageshack.us):haha: I do like the crown, but this comparison is right on.

[Cincinnatis]

And then I remind myself that this is Cincinnati we're talking about. It ain't gonna get built.


Like Phase I, right?

Just like a suburbanites' way of thinking ... what part of Cincinnati did you grow up again? ;)

[Buckeye Native 001]

Newtown. We couldn't live in Anderson Township because they found out my dad's a Kentuckian and my mom's from Milford. ;)

[Cincinnatis]

Newtown. We couldn't live in Anderson Township because they found out my dad's a Kentuckian and my mom's from Milford. ;)

Ah ha!

Good to see that you are still in the loop of things ... you know ... pretty extrordinary living 2,000 miles away. Very impressive, I must say (must be the knowledge of the much-delayed Enquirer). ;)

[secondson]

Shorten the crown but make the building taller so that if its going to be the new tallest, at least it'll beat the Carew Tower by a couple of floors.

Okay, not sure if I'm supposed to do this or not, since I altered someone else's design and rendering. If the mods need to remove this, I understand. But how about a taller version, minus the crown....?

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8061/qcs2alteredsmallqp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Forgive my poor attempt at creating some sort of roof. :shuffle:

[Buckeye Native 001]

No, that looks about how I'd like Queen City Square to look if its going to be Cincinnati's new tallest. :tup: