BIRMINGHAM - the update thread

[Citrus-Fruit]

Name: New Street Station
Web: http://www.renewstreet.co.uk/
Use: Mixed - Station, Retail, Office, Residential.
Towers: Demolition (Stephenson Tower), Erection of TWO, 40 storey, 130m Towers in its place.
Cost: £500m
Start: 2008 (Phase1), 2011 (Phase2)
Completion: 2011 (Phase1), 2013 (Phase2)

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Outline Planning Application Recived: 09/08/06 (9th August 2006)

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West Elevation

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South Elevation

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East Elevation

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Night Render From Bullring

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Entrance Into Station

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[Citrus-Fruit]

Name: Martineau Galleries
Scheme: Transform 13.5 acres of prime city center land next to the world famous Selfridges and Bullring shopping complex/
Space: 2.9m sqft
Use: Mix - offices, residential and leisure space. 645,000 of lettable retail space, public squares and underground parking.
Cost: £550m ($1billion+)
Towers: Erection of a 33 and 25 storey residential complex to house 700 apartments.
Start: 2007
Finish: 2010

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[Citrus-Fruit]

Name: Broad Street Tower
Web: www.levelseven-architects.com
Cost: £100m
Floors: 40
Top Residential Height: 127.5m
Max Building Height: 133m
Developer: Richardon Cordwell
Use: Hotel, Residential (Includes helipad)
Start: Late 2006/Early 2007
Finish: 2008/09

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[Bergenser]

cool project! :tup:

[SimonTheSoundMan]

It went forward for final planning today. I wonder how it went.

[wjfox2004]

The top looks a bit yucky, but otherwise it's okay. Fairly decent height too.

[Engels]

Background:

Although 2x130m may not seem that tall to some international readers it's pretty big in terms of regional citys in the UK and will make a large addition to the Birmingham skyline. With the exception of London which has 200m+ towers and proposals at 300m all other UK city's buildings are less than 200m.

Birmingham has by some people's deffinition the best skyline in the UK due to its large number of talls situated at the top of the ridge of a hill which the city centre streches accross. A boom in post war deveopment saw Birmingham become one of the first old citys to modernise and have many tall buildings. By the end of the 1970s however most of the construction of tall buildings had ceased with only sporadic additions over the next 20-30 years.

Birmingham's tallest building remains the now 40year old BT Tower (156m communcations tower in the city centre). Many new towers are now being built and planned as British citys genearly enter a second age of high rise constuction.

Birmingham is at the forefront of this new boom with the recent construction of the Beetham tower (122m and currently second tallest building in the city) and Orion Building (90m). A lot more buildings are planned but if built first then these two buildings would become the 2nd and 3rd tallest in the city. Their central position on the skyline would no doubt also make them a focal point even with large buildings planned elsewhere in the city.

The central location of the proposals is part of the Birmingham gateway scheme to redevelop Birmingham's New St station a 1960s era station that is massively over capacity and such an eyesore that it is known as the Blackhole of Birmingham. The area around the station is one of the few remaining areas of central Birmingham to remain untouched by regeneration over the last 15 years.

[SimonTheSoundMan]

It still reminds me of a cheap cinema.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Just to let you know, it flew through Approval. Birmingham International Airport had no objections what so ever ;) ... let Brum's revival begin :)

Construction due Winter this year.

[dizo1000]

great tower!:tup:

[wjfox2004]

Great news for Birmingham.

Not the most amazing design, but in terms of height it's pretty awesome - only 17m short of being a skyscraper.

[Rambaldi]

Just to let you know, it flew through Approval. Birmingham International Airport had no objections what so ever ;) ... let Brum's revival begin :)

Construction due Winter this year.

Really? That's great news man. When I was in Brum last time I was very impressed with the amount of high rise buildings there, all it needs is taller towers like this. :cheers:

[Citrus-Fruit]

Construction due middle 2007. New designs just been released on the front of Birmingham post. I shall post them later.

It could potentially have the highest restaurant in Europe. Its pure 175m of glass with a torquoise and minimilistic pink colour cladding, yet see through all the way to the top. The lifts will be placed on the outside of the tower so vistors will get a birdseye view of Birmingham and its skyline. The top is lit up and has a rather large plasma rolling screen roll around the top of the tower indicating the time and date. One ride is placed on top of the restaurant and is illuminated in normal lighting, This doesnt seem much but the effect it will have will be superb. Its a rotating cart ride which will give the indication of a halo on the tower.

Birmingham city council have worked with ROC International and SMC Hickton Medley have designed the £60m tower.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Thanks guys. Rambaldi there's a few more coming hopefully aswell :)

[Citrus-Fruit]

Here are a few renders. Ill give you bigger ones when they update the site. This is a fantastic addition the the ever gorwing Birmingham skyline.

http://www.expressandstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/towertall.jpg

http://www.expressandstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/tower2.jpg

[Citrus-Fruit]

As you can see. It will also have Europes tallest veritcal drop ride at over 500ft.

[Citrus-Fruit]

High life view of the future

These are the first stunning images of what will be the Midlands’ tallest building.

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The proposed £60 million Pinnacle tower, standing 574 feet tall, will dominate Birmingham’s skyline, standing taller than the city’s BT tower. The project in Eastside will feature Britain’s first vertical theme park.Located next to Millennium Point, the Pinnacle is also likely to feature one of Europe’s highest restaurants. Bosses behind the scheme have said building work should start next year and take around three years.

It is hoped it will be officially opened in the run-up to Christmas 2010. The building is set to have six theme park rides as well as a glass lift offering panoramic views of the city. Rides at the tower may include a freefall parachute drop, bungee jump and a seesaw.

The building, to dwarf the city’s current tallest structure, the 498ft Birmingham BT Tower, by 76ft, has been designed by Birmingham and Telford based architects SMC Hickton Madeley.

Design director Tim Warner described it as an exciting project for everyone involved and said it would have a positive impact commercially for the city as well boosting the aesthetics of Birmingham’s skyline.

He said: “We are extremely excited about this project. It will represent the highest building in the Midlands and potentially the highest restaurant in Europe, giving scope and presence to the rejuvenation programme and public connections for Eastside and plans for the new park.

“The project is a clear responsibility and a challenging opportunity and the quality of our approach must be coherent on all levels and carry and comfort all the stakeholder associated and along the way.”

The new building will be clearly visible from surrounding motorways and other roads in the area.

Birmingham City Council regeneration boss Clive Dutton said: “This will dramatically improve the skyline of Birmingham. It has the makings of a project to add something special - a world-class skyline in a world-class city.”

The newly constructed Beetham Tower, at 400ft, is currently the city’s tallest residential building.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Birmingham strikes again. Certainly will become one of Europes best skylines.

Ballymore
06.10.2006
Ballymore is to develop a 180-bed Glen Howells Architects-designed hotel tower at its Snow Hill scheme in Birmingham. The 4 acre (1.6 ha) city centre scheme has outline planning consent. Snow Hill will have 600,000 sq ft (55,741 sq m) of offices, retail and restaurants and 300 flats. Cushman & Wakefield Hotels has been appointed to find a hotel operator.

http://www.property-week.co.uk/Pictures/web/m/m/b/40_p11_Snow_Hill.jpg

[jef]

I think this is the site KPMG selected for its HQ. What building exactly, do you know?

[AJW]

Very nice.

[Citrus-Fruit]

I think this is the site KPMG selected for its HQ. What building exactly, do you know?

There is currently not a building there. its already been cleared.

[clarky2005]

Nice looking tower for Birmingham:tup:

[Accura]

I'm not keen on this one, however, I'll reserve judgement until a better render is released.

[Swede]

Cool to see Birmingham getting all this new stuff. Internationaly, it is just too much in London's shadow to get the attention it deserves, quality towers like these and just a few replies...

[Citrus-Fruit]

Site construction run through with pictures.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=113309

[Citrus-Fruit]

Birminghams huge new super hospital

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A beautiful colourful mess

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[Citrus-Fruit]

43 storey Snow Hill Tower (Construction July/August 2007)

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[Citrus-Fruit]

The hotel developers behind Arena Central a 175m (50 storey) tower in Birmingham, Dandara have signed a deal with Birmingham City Council for a £21m, 2 acre site at Great Charles Street. A mixed use development with public square. Skyscraper! Skyscraper! Skyscraper!

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Birminghams Natwest Tower, has also secured a sale. The current 80m office tower will be replaced by a highrise 200,000 sqft office tower which is described as "iconic"

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Just keeps getting better and better in Brum.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Birmingham's going to be full of cranes next year. Im not joking either. :P

Development Securities and Grainger Trust acquire 10-acre Birmingham site

Development Securities and Grainger Trust are pleased to announce that they have jointly acquired the 10-acre Curzon Park site in Birmingham from the Eastside Partnership for £33.5 million.

Development Securities and Grainger Trust will fund the acquisition and subsequent development jointly, with initial contributions from the two companies’ existing resources.

The proposed 1.4 million sq ft mixed use development, with a gross development value of over £350 million, will comprise approximately 800,000 sq ft of Grade A office accommodation, 400,000 sq ft of residential accommodation, a 180-bed hotel and 30,000 sq ft of retail space. It is intended that the joint venture will obtain planning consent, deliver infrastructure works to the value of £12 million and develop the site in several phases. Development Securities will project manage the planning, infrastructure and commercial phases with Grainger project managing the residential component.

Located within Birmingham’s Eastside, the proposed high-quality mixed use development of offices, together with residential, retail and leisure elements, will support Birmingham City Council’s aspirations for the site. It is anticipated that outline planning consent for Curzon Park should be obtained by summer 2007 and that construction will start on site in late 2007/early 2008. The overall development programme is expected to take up to eight years.

Commenting on the acquisition, Julian Barwick, Joint Managing Director, Development Securities, said:
“We are delighted to have acquired this key 10-acre site in the centre of Britain’s second city in partnership with Grainger. We are also looking forward to working jointly alongside Birmingham City Council on our proposals, which will deliver outstanding benefits for the local community.”

Richard Exley, Director of Development at Grainger, said:
“This acquisition enables us to meet our shared aspirations for our joint venture; to deliver large-scale, mixed-use schemes in first-rate locations. We anticipate furthering our partnership with Development Securities on similar schemes in the future.”

[Citrus-Fruit]

OK. This image is from Ken Shuttleworths City Park Gate Scheme. Everything has doubled in size :D and the total area will be well over 1,000,000 sqft. Which means 4 (FOUR) 1,000,000+ projects including 2.8msqft MG will all be under construction together in the same place.

Put this into perspective. Thats the size of 5 Canada Squares in the center of Birmingham. These projects cover 80 acres of land. There is still over 320 left to develop and another $5,000,000,000 worth of investment in a project to grow Birmingham city center by 35%. A 176m Verticle theme park aswell as an 8 acre park are also at an advanced stage.

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[Citrus-Fruit]

New website U/C for Worlds First Verticle Theme Park

http://www.rocinternationaltowers.com/

[Citrus-Fruit]

Quite a bit of news to report but its probably best to do it next week ;)

Have these for now ... Taken by Smileyface (SSC) :)

Nightime

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Daytime

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City to City

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[Citrus-Fruit]

Birminghams Snow Hill scheme is fulyl underway and will see all phases rise simultaneously including Birminghams tallest residential tower :banana:

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Tower heights

57m, 75m, 84m and 137m

[Citrus-Fruit]

France calls us the Shanghai of Europe, yet nobody's interested. :yuck: Ahwell.

*Abstract land have aquired the Natwest Tower and rumours are of a 100m replacement.

*Venture east a new 1m sqft scheme in the eastside is in masterplaning. will accomodate 600,000 sqft of offices one 5 star hotel TOWER and a 3/4 star 180 bedroom hotel aswelll as 400 residential units.

*V Tower has been released at 51 storeys.

*Eric Kuhne will design a residential tower at Great Charles street site. Close to Birminghams Snow Hill Towers.


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[Citrus-Fruit]

OK there's tons to catch up on but its going to take quite a while.

A couple of 18 storey student accomodation towers are planned for Aston University.


17 storey mixed use scheme is planned close to Holloway Circus.

and some more good news on the banking front.

Belgian bank ups its stake in Brum Apr 4 2007


One of Belgium's largest banks has announced a push into Birmingham.

[Citrus-Fruit]

*105m, 81m, 61m, and 58m Office blocks are planned for Masshouse.

*Other blocks in scheme include 2 x 14 storeys (51m) - U/C.

*Arena Central - 7 blocks ranging from 12-18 floors and 51 storey V Tower.

*43 Storey Snow Hill residential including 23 storey hotel tower. 4 blocks currently u/c at 137m, 84m, 75m and 57m.

*Cube - 17 storey (69m) mixed use development currently on site.

*Orion phase 4 - 18 storeys U/C.

*Opal Court topped out - 18 storeys.

*Peat House 14 storeys (59m) U/C

*Colmore Plaza 14 storeys (60m) U/C

*42 storey Broad Street Tower approved. Construction late 07 early 08.
*176m Vertical Theme Park - proposed. planning summer 07.

*Venture East - possible 24 storey hotel tower. Planning summer 07.

*Great Charles Street. Eric Kuhne/Dandara possible 80m residential tower. planning.

*City Park Gate - 22 storeys 83m residential tower approved.

*Natwest Tower replacement. 80m+ British Land - planning, spring 07.

*Cumberland House - Complete demolishment of exisiting structure. Mixed use development. (60m)

*New Street Station - outline approval for twin 40 storey towers depending on funding.

*33 storey 110m Martineau Galleries redevlopment - outline approval.

*Possible 17 storey mixed use development Holloway Circus. Detailed planning. Submition summer 07.

*2x 18 storey student accomodation blocks Aston University. Planning summer 07.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Towers over 100m (Possible, approved, proposed, u/c or built)

176m VTP
159m BT Tower (originally 152m)
152m V Tower
137m Snow Hill 1
133m BST
130m New Street 1
130m New Street 2
122m HCT
110m Martineau Galleries
101m Masshosue Office
100m Alpha Tower
100m Joseph Chamberlain Clock Tower
100m+ (Auchinleck House, Paradise Circus 1, 2 maybe even 3)

[Citrus-Fruit]

You can find the old designs for Birminghams 245m - 60 storey Arena Central Tower here. Unfortunately its been cut down significantly, design completely changed and will stand at just over 146m and 50 storeys tall.

Its under "Portfolio" - "Mixed Use"

http://www.weintraub.co.uk/site/weintraub.htm

[Citrus-Fruit]

Calthorpe clinches Hagley Road project Apr 11 2007


Calthorpe Estates has landed detailed planning permission for a £4.5 million scheme to regenerate one of Birmingham’s key gateways, Hagley Road.

The plans involve the creation of a 62 bedroom Premier Travel Inn and a 6,000 sq ft Beefeater restaurant on the Calthorpe Estate, Edgbaston. The hotel and restaurant are being developed by Whitbread on the site of the former Duck Inn, next door to TGI Fridays, and are expected to generate around 70 new jobs.

Multibuild have been appointed construction contractor and start on site is anticipated in May, with completion due in January 2008.

[Citrus-Fruit]

More good news.

Amendment to App. C/05353/02/FUL comprising internal alterations to floors 10-19 of proposed tower to provide 29 additional flats; increase in height of central tower fronting Suffolk Street by one storey; increase in height of end tower fronting Suffolk Street by four storeys

Now its difficult to say where the extra floors will go but the 1 extra floor obviously go's on the middle block and im pretty sure the 4 other floors go on top of the tallest tower on this image to the left hand side to take it up to 19 storeys from its original 15.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/551OrionBuildingPhase2_pic2.jpg

[Citrus-Fruit]

Anywho, its already up to the 4th floor so it'll have to be passed pretty sharpish.

[Citrus-Fruit]

External work is almost complete on every Brummies favourite building the 81m, 22 storey Rotunda.

Its being turned into luxury apartments.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/455328692_505cd9de10_b.jpg

[Citrus-Fruit]

Not really construction news but important none the less.

Editor calls for new digital hub to be based in Birmingham


The editor of the Birmingham Post is calling for a planned digital service to rival the BBC to be based in the city.

Marc Reeves said that the city was well placed to host the Public Service Publisher announced by regulator Ofcom in January.

His comments came ahead of a Birmingham Post business breakfast meeting with Philip Graf, deputy chairman of Ofcom, today.

He said: "Birmingham is an ideal location for this because of the growing number of software houses, television production companies and other creative organisations that are thriving in the city. It also benefits from its proximity to London.

"The new PSP is going to be a very organic and loose collection of creative businesses and individuals producing content on digital platforms."

[Bergenser]

I like this one! :tup:
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[Citrus-Fruit]

Yeh, they seem to be everyones favourites. Smaller of the two will house Birminghams first 5* hotel although it wont be the only one as another is planned at Venture East.

Scheme in height ranges from 57m, 75m, 84m and then 137m.

[Citrus-Fruit]

For some reason I havent posted this. Probably because it comes as a bit of a dissapointment.

The V Building

http://www.thevbuilding.com/

Being developed by Dandara, with a design team led by world class architect Eric Kuhne, ‘The V Building’ has been heralded as one of Birmingham’s most ambitious development projects. At 50 storeys high and measuring 150 metres, it will transform the Birmingham skyline.

http://www.civicarts.com/images/ASB/Cam02-copy.jpg

The building will feature active uses at street level, including several bars and fine dining restaurants, as well as a Sky Bar and Observatory located at the top of the tower. The proposed 712 private residential apartments, comprising studios and one, two and three-bedroom designs, together with 60 serviced suites, will also be served by a spa, resident’s library and private reception rooms, including an exclusive club room.

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http://www.civicarts.com/images/ASB/00-Navigation-Street.jpg

[Citrus-Fruit]

Erebus if you read this, Orion phase 4, im pretty certain has grown from 15 to 19 storeys.

In relation to ...

Going up then!

I think I read on "another forum" that they had increased the height slighty, well according to Simlim, anyway..

Yeh, they've submitted a planning application for the addition of one extra floor

P.S Stephen I guess you visit here. Just like to inform you those pics are great. :cheers:

[van heckler 1]

Hello Sim :banaride:

Are you ever gonna come back home?
And even though your usernames different on here, I'm still going to call you Sim. :yes:


Erebus if you read this, Orion phase 4, im pretty certain has grown from 15 to 19 storeys.

So if it's estimated at 50m then...

50m / 15 floors = 3.3m per floor

3.3m x 4 new floors = 13m

13m + 50m = 63m

Is that right?

Also there's some pretty disturbing smilies on this forum such as...

:babyeat: + :upload_71700: + :borg:

[Citrus-Fruit]

Hi Van. Nice to hear from you! I've tried e-mailing James (Gothicform) as I wanted to post something a week or so back as it was said if I wanted to rejoin I could its just my e-mail address is still on the system which means I havent technically been deleted and therefore cant re-register. Its more difficult then I thought to stay away, there's so many things that you want to answer then realise you cant lol.

Anywho. On Orion - Im pretty sure (not 100%) that Orion 2 as we know it has been bumped up by 4 storeys on its tallest end as it was originally 15 storeys and the new application clearly states it is to be 19 from now, which would take it well over the 60m mark, which is a good height.

And on the smilies. I havent noticed them till now. :haha:

You looking forward to the Cumberland house redevlopment? :notacrook:

[Citrus-Fruit]

Also, you might want to inform Bio or Erebus that the new Post & Mail office plans (6 storey) are on the planning apps.

Nothing exciting but its the new HQ for our leading papers so might be worth a post.

Unless you want to post them? :cheers:

[Citrus-Fruit]

Found them. These are a few minutes taken from a meeting in with residents and co last year.

212-223 BROAD STREET (CUMBERLAND HOUSE) - REDEVELOPMENT OF SITE TO PROVDE A 40-STOREY BUILDING

Mike Taylor (Local Planning) reported that the Assistant Director for Planning Control suggested this item be withdrawn due to a lack of progress on the project proposal.The Chair person noted a number of local residents had concerns about the design.

It was one of two 40 storey towers for Broad Street talked about at the meeting from last year. Well according to the council anywho.

[van heckler 1]

Its more difficult then I thought to stay away, there's so many things that you want to answer then realise you cant lol.

I've hardly posted at all in the last few weeks as I'm trying to get my average post count down to 2 per day. Don't ask me why, it's a bit of an obsession. But yer, on many occasions I've wanted to reply to certain posts like the one below, but have managed to resist...

Manchesters always been home to englands tallest building outside London, it is now, and always will be!

That stupid Manc had obviously forgot about Holloway Circus Tower.

You looking forward to the Cumberland house redevlopment? :notacrook:

Yer, we'll find out tomorrow won't we? I'm also excited about the 2 towers behind Auchinleck House as they should hopefully fill that little gap on the skyline between the Broad Street towers and the Fiveways towers.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Ahwell, thought you went a bit quiet. You've done well then. If you get to obsessed you end up doing zero work lol.

Auchineleck House could be anything yet. 2x 20 storey were reported almost 6 years ago but we havent heard anything since. Latest rumours apart from those were of a 28-30 storey. Not sure how much foundation that had but it seemed pretty resonable.

As you can see from my post above. Cumberland House could be a biggie. Not quite as big as 40 storeys. But certainly alot bigger then whats already there. I was thinking roughly 32 storeys. I'll be dissappointed if its anything less then 20 though. A good light, modern design however and ill be very happy. Its got to stay thin in my oppinion. Buildings down Broad Street are just far to fat. a tower like doon street in London would work a treat obviously alot smaller though.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3907DoonStreetTower_pic2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3907DoonStreetTower_pic3.jpg

[van heckler 1]

Not really a fan of Doon Street to be honest but I agree with it needing to be slender. As for Auchinleck House, Erebus has said...

Dandara are planning to build two residential 15-20 storey towers behind Auchinleck House as part of the building redevelopment

About re-registering to ssc, can't you just use a different e-mail address?

[Citrus-Fruit]

Arr right, well in that case its obviously newer rumours. It certainly needs a revamp. Has done for years now. I know its suppose to be quite a big mixed use scheme and the site is'nt overly big. Think a 300 bed hotel was also on the cards.

Doon street is'nt fantastic, totally agree, but its a nice simple, light tower which makes its height known with a little bit more feminism about it. Something I think Birmingham needs with the big butch boys such as V and BST. :P

On the e-mail address problem. This is the only one im able to use on this computer. Hotmail etc has been deleted from now on due to uncountable virus being recieved.

A £899 computer and its slowed hugely within the last month. I should really get someone to look at it. :whip:

Its actually nice to speak to someone again. It was a bit quiet over here as you could probably tell :haha: but a bit of a refreshing change.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Over 9 years, 2 bannings is rather good I think Erebus ;)

Not to mention one was a tad unreasonable due to the uproar of the Danish Cartoons. :dead: I am rather argumentitive when frustrated however. Have to be in certain professions.

This is like my little zen room. So tranquil. :worship:

[Citrus-Fruit]

Arr yes Royal Blue - the man oblivious to contradiction.

Im not going to the Novatel today but I think somebody I know is Erebus. He always carries a camera aswell. I'll find out. :cheers:

[Citrus-Fruit]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/429126227_e08d494ce0_o.jpg

[van heckler 1]

Great panorama that.

[jef]

Doon Street is extremely poor proposed development.
Birmingham has the best with its Ballymore Snowhill residential tower. top notch.

[rugbytommy]

any updates on snow hill tower 1 and v tower?doon street proposal looks great.it's all happening in brum!

[Citrus-Fruit]

No. Doon Street is a London project. I was just giving an example of how I would want a specific site in Brum to turn out like :) Snow HIll is U/C with piling well underway, wont be long until concrete is being poured.

V - Tower has commenced enabling works ready for demolition.

P.S I've got banned again till August the 9th due to using the word Bollocks quite a few times in the wiggley thread. How astonishing. Its like a vendetta. I wonder who it was :haha: he really needs to grow up some and get a sense of humour as considering he singled out that 1 page out of 30 odd which subsequently was the only one in which I posted in, is quite ironic. Reasons. Languagem wasting mods time and trolling.

If im not mistaken I merely commented on the amount of bollocks being spoke in a thread which after only 3 days reached over 30 odd pages of people bickering and shouting off about each others cities. Its amazing how the likes of Wiggley survive who put zero input what so ever thats worthwhile into the forum, then a person who has an hatred for one of the mod's gets done over just because of the word bollocks. His either had nothing to do for a while or really is a bit of a loner with not much else to do.

Arr, the over controlling dickwods at SSC :worship:

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Still a bit missing

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Cube site is all preped ready for piling

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£150m tower hotel planned for Broad Street Oct 31 2007


By Jo Ind & Rhona Ganguly


A £150 million hotel boasting one of the tallest towers in the city is being planned for Birmingham's Broad Street.

The luxury development with a sky restaurant and conference facilities could be built between Sheepcote Street and the Novotel within the next four years.

Developers Regal Property Group have planning consent for a restaurant and 130 apartments on the site where the progressive synagogue once stood.

But now it is hoping to add to the original plans by including a luxury hotel, with a tower reaching the heights of Birmingham's tallest buildings.

At 122m tall, Beetham Tower, the Radisson SAS hotel near to New Street station, is currently the tallest building in the city. The proposed 50-storey high V tower - on the corner of Broad Street and Queensway - is expected to surpass this height but could be beaten by the Regal hotel.


Roger Holbeche, head of Regal in the UK, said: "We haven't made a formal planning application.


"Discussions are on-going, but they are very positive and are likely to lead to an early application."


The scheme includes conference facilities for up to 1,000 people to complement those of the International Convention Centre.


The Big Bite, a listed building formerly the Left Bank restaurant, would also be incorporated into the development.


If all goes to plan the luxury hotel with conference facilities and apartments above could be completed by 2011.


Mr Holbeche explained: "What we're trying to do is create something within the hotel which plugs the gap in the market.


"There will be ballroom facilities and conference facilities, maybe for up to 1,000 people. Naturally delegates would be stopping on site with the facilities on site.


"We are looking at building something absolutely top quality - one of the bigger buildings in the Birmingham arena.


"Whether it will be as tall as the tower of the proposed V building remains to be seen. It's not quite at a stage where we can say that."


John Lamb, spokesman for the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, said: "I think any iconic building is welcome and obviously it brings the possibility of there being jobs - not only in construction but also in the running of the hotel."


He added if planning permission were to be granted for the hotel, it would relieve an existing lack of hotel accommodation in the city and could attract big events.


In addition, he said this could help attract Chinese Olympic athletes for the London 2012 Olympic Games.


"We already have the US track and field team and there is a big bid to get the Chinese delegation, which is enormous," he said.


"Sometimes you just can't get a hotel room in Birmingham. It will give the city a chance to attract big events."


Broad Street manager Mike Olley also welcomed the proposals.


He said: "We want exciting ideas for Birmingham - we want things that will get people investing the area.


"That can only be good for jobs locally."

[Citrus-Fruit]

Well might aswell give a quick update! Birmingham is buzzing at the moment. A few more 100m+ towers come out the closet and rumours of quite a few more.

One of the latest proposals which is just in design stage will be located next to twin 130m towers.

http://www.gallangroup.com/images/st_george_house2.jpg
Snow Hill's 44 storey scraper is up to 2 floors above the basements :banana:

[wjfox2004]

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Awesome. I'd love to see a 2012 version of that.

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the direct middle bit will be wall to wall off 100m+ towers. 1 u/c along with an 84m hotel tower. 152m V Building site work, approval of 118m, 130m, 130m towers and recently submitted 160m Natwest Tower. Others inlcude the Gallan proposal above aswell as St George Street, Regal, Post & Mail and HCT4.

[Citrus-Fruit]

New 21 storey tower, nothing to shout about, msot are planning to object to it due to the ridiculous size. Should be alot taller. Design is decent.

[wazcaster]

Birmingham is coming along pretty nicely. Its about time a city outside of London got some decent skyscrapers.

Edit: I just went back a page or two and I saw the shot of the Brummie skyline at night. Holy cr*p, I knew it was good, but heck, Birmingham's skyline is bloody awesome. Easily the best in Britain.

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NEC has found a partner for its new multi-million pound casino. Help keep the centre attract new visitors.

PLANS to create a £90 million leisure complex and casino in the Midlands have come one step closer to reality after business chiefs selected a partner company.

Genting Stanley Ltd, based in Solihull, has been chosen as the partner of the development next to the National Exhibition Centre.

The proposals, which have been backed by Birmingham City Council, are yet to be given the green light by Solihull Council's planning comittee and the Government.

NEC Group bosses today said they hoped the latest announcement would "prove" the company’s dedication to the project.

The group also revealed details about the development, saying it would boast a spa, hotel, bars, restaurants and a casino, boosting the region’s economy by £2 billion a year and creating up to 29,000 jobs.

Paul Thandi, chief executive of the NEC Group, said: "It has always been our first priority to find the best possible partner for the NEC, for Solihull and for the wider West Midlands. We are confident that not only have we found a partner who shares our vision, we have also found an experienced team capable of bringing that vision to life.

" I look forward to working with the Genting Stanley team to demonstrate to Solihull Council that our proposal represents the strongest, most deliverable, exciting and appropriate opportunity for the local area in order that we can realise our strategy of providing a world class work, rest and play environment at the NEC."

Coun Mike Whitby, leader of Birmingham City Council, said: "This is an important opportunity for Birmingham and the West Midlands in helping to ensure the NEC is able to attract even more visitors into the region and to provide a world class attraction, all of which adds to our reputation."

Genting Stanley is the largest casino operator in the UK, with 40 sites. It is owned by Genting International, which has resorts and casinos around the world and is currently developing a £2.2 billion complex in Singapore which will be home to a range of attractions, including a Universal Studios theme park.

Peter Brooks, executive deputy chairman for Genting Stanley, said: "We are confident of being able to bring a wealth of experience and success to this project and we look forward to the opportunity of being a worthy partner to the NEC Group and demonstrating our strengths to the local government in this exciting endeavour."

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[skirwin1]

First post!!! :) WOW the brumy skyline is gona be really be quite decent in a few years time. some beautiful proposals going up. although i have to say that im not to keen on the cube. it looks kinda fady. n i feel this with allot of make's designs. there kinda look cheap and trendy, n i can just imagine them with plastic cladding and looking shit in a few years time. still their MnS headquarters in london and that st pauls information kiosk look awsome and these are the only buildings of there ive seen in the flesh. so lets hope the cube turns out well and proves me wrong.... btw great thread!

[Citrus-Fruit]

Welcome.

The Cube is a "love it or hate it" type of building. I think it'll suprise a few when it starts to reveal itself a bit more but you can understand the apprehension.

MAKE as an architectural firm have advanced from Will Alsop in a way to make thier designs more feasible, more attractive and more achievable. I hoep this works out for them.

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On other fronts.

Well, its only a matter of time. Birminghams got to the half hour stage of a marathon. Things begin to pick up and get more exciting, but theres plenty more to come. We never know what might happen. We could end up stopping for a piss, or we could go ahead and really become a city which si known, respected and highlighted around the globe.

We've got the opportunity. Just got to do it! :)

[van heckler 1]

Thanks for doing the updates.

I see you've been banned again lol. It would be good to have you back. Are you gonna resign up or something?

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Im struggling to find out why I was banned to be honest! Cant help to think it was Tubey being petty because I "slightly" disagreed with some of his comments about a certain topic.

Neil M's a bit bitchy aswell! Rants in Franco forum? What the hell is the kid on about! I dont even know how to say my name in French let alone hold a conversation.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Just a few circling the SSC.

The best photographer's been out and about again and delivered as usual. Smileyface

The cusp off the city
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%209/Skyline106200812.jpg

The expanding skyline - roughly 2 miles long
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Close up off the main core.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%209/Skyline106200813.jpg

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Cra1g from a city centre perspective.

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[T-Man]

Since SSC has died again I'll put this here. It may be part of the reason that demolition for the V-Building hasn't started yet...

In February 2000, following a call-in inquiry, planning permission was granted in
outline by the Secretary of State for the Arena Central scheme. It comprises the
redevelopment of the site bounded by Broad Street, Bridge Street, Holliday Street
and Suffolk Street Queensway and land south of Holliday Street. A mix of uses is
proposed and the scheme includes a new tower of up to 175 metres height. All
matters were reserved except for access.
A Section 106 agreement was signed at that time, which required the developers to provide the following:

1. A £5m contribution towards public transport improvements.

2. £1m to be paid upon the implementation of development on the site and two further payments of £2m to be paid on completion of the tower, the confirmation of the Transport and Works Act Order for Metro between Snow
Hill and the site or within five years (whichever occurs first).

3. £50,000 towards a feasibility study of public transport improvements.

4. A commitment to enter into a highways agreement to implement off-site highway works.

5. The provision and maintenance of shopmobility services.

6. The provision of public toilets.

7. Public art to a minimum of £100,000 in value.

8. A scheme of CCTV coverage.

9. A minimum requirement to construct residential floorspace.

The former NCP car park site south of Holliday Street has since been developed with a new residential building. In 2004, your Committee agreed an extension of time for the submission of reserved matters pursuant to the outline consent until February 2010, with the legal agreement essentially unaltered.
In October 2007, members approved the tower reserved matters phase (the V building) and agreed an updated masterplan for the scheme as a whole.

OBSERVATIONS:

The context for the payment of the planning obligation has changed since 2000. The understanding then, when the scheme was predominantly leisure based, was that the leisure and retail elements would be constructed first, followed by the tower. The developers have stated that the V-tower could now be the first building constructed (although this is now uncertain in that the proposed office building phase fronting Broad Street could now commence first).
In addition, the original masterplan envisaged the construction of new deep basement areas on the site. The updated masterplan approved in 2007 included the retention of existing basement parking areas and the adaptation of existing basement structures. The applicants are considering the possibility of remodelling existing underground structures as an advanced works contract in association with the office plots provided on the Broad Street frontage and to deliver the permanent arrangement for undercroft parking associated with that phase.
Lastly, since the Transport and Works Act powers were secured for Metro in 2005, the terms of the existing legal agreement require the developers to provide a single payment of £5m towards public transport improvements. (It has been agreed that this payment would continue towards the funding of the Gateway Project). This would, they state, have a significant impact on their cash flow arrangements compared to the originally anticipated staged payment process. They also state that there is a strong disincentive to undertake substructure works (which would currently trigger the payment of the transport contribution) so far in advance of securing the financing of the office construction or agreeing office tenants.
The developers have therefore requested that your committee give consideration to a supplemental agreement in respect of the following:
1. Amendments to the phasing of payment of the £5m public transport contribution. This would be on the basis that £1.5m would be payable upon implementation of the ‘first building’, then £2m and £1.5m respectively on implementation of the ‘second’ and ‘third’ substantive new buildings on the site. The first, second and third buildings would be defined as each having a minimum gross internal floor area of 10,000m2. The public transport payment would be index linked from the date of implementation of the substructure works.
2. The exclusion of the proposed substructure works from the definition of ‘implementation works’ in the existing agreement. This would allow those works to be completed without triggering the first payment (The ‘implementation works’ definition in the existing agreement allows demolition,
site clearance, site preparation works, setting out of services and the construction of access roads to be completed without triggering payment).
The request for these amendments is a response to changes in circumstances since the original grant of consent in 2000. Whilst it would result in the receipt of the first payment at a later stage than is required by the current agreement, the £5m overall requirement would still be secured. The revised payment trigger arrangements would also increase the likelihood of this major city centre regeneration project proceeding in the current circumstances.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Chief Legal Officer be authorised to prepare and seal a supplemental agreement to that attached to application number C/04238/90/OUT, as amended by application number C/04693/04/FUL to include the following:
1. Amendments to the phasing of the £5m public transport contribution as referred to above.
2. The exclusion of the proposed sub structure works from the definition of ‘implementation works’ in the existing agreement.

From here http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/democracy/Pages/AgendaDetail.aspx?AgendaID%3d36657 It'll be decided on the 10th.

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Interesting.

3 Contractors for the Library have also been shortlisted be decided at the end of the year.

[T-Man]

Yeah I saw that somewhere as well.
So when are you coming back sim?

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Unfortunately, Tubeman has a immature vendetta against myself which will make it impossible to do so.

The fact he knows next to nothing about what the forum is set up for he needs his kicks from elsewhere and unfortunately for him and his ego he needs to inflict power to make himself feel better.

[Citrus-Fruit]

Lots of interesting titbits.

Some old and some new.

* 30 storey tower by Kuwaiti investors in Birminghams Digbeth area.

* Deutsche Bank are due to announce a major investment and elnlargement in city.

* Concept designs have been released by Dutch practice Mecanno for the citys new Library which will be the largest public library in Europe. Lots of glass boxes topped onto one another.

* New designs have been released by FOA for Birmingham New Street Station.

* Snow Hill towers have been re-phased. Current development is sterile and they will concentrate on Snowhill Two which is a 75m office block to help bring in revenue.

* Re-commencement wont start till Easter 2009 at the earliest.

* Colmore Row (165m) tower has been put forward for approval although distinct changes will take place including the lowering of light mast.

* NEC Arena 7th largest in Europe has struck a new sponsor deal and is now known as the LG arena.

* V Tower has been delayed indefinately.

* VTP 200 is being re-designed. (Although my sources state any planning wont happen for a while as funding is sparse)

* ISIS have delayed two schemes in Birmingham. Including one of the largest in Eastside.

* Cube is progressing well although trouble might not be to far away.

* All in all ... not good times for major residential developments in the city as is the case for all cities across the UK due to the credit crunch.

[Citrus-Fruit]

The first images of Regals Mixed Use Tower along Broad Street have been found, it comes on strong indications from the council of a major investment along the golden mile with a multi-billion pound make over of the area.

Schemes include numerous high-rises, although with the current economic climate its difficult to determine what will happen with alot of them. A review of Cumberland House has also been indicated.

Anyway. Here are the first renders. They plan to start 2009 with completion before the 2012 Olympics. Its rumoured Regal will announce Hilton as the flagship hotel chain. There will be a 54th floor skybar.

http://s244306752.websitehome.co.uk/images/tower_night_image.jpg
A £150 million hotel boasting one of the tallest towers in the city is being planned for Birmingham's Broad Street.

The luxury development with a sky restaurant and conference facilities could be built between Sheepcote Street and the Novotel within the next four years.

Developers Regal Property Group have planning consent for a restaurant and 130 apartments on the site where the progressive synagogue once stood.

But now it is hoping to add to the original plans by including a luxury hotel, with a tower reaching the heights of Birmingham's tallest buildings.

At 122m tall, Beetham Tower, the Radisson SAS hotel near to New Street station, is currently the tallest building in the city. The proposed 50-storey high V tower - on the corner of Broad Street and Queensway - is expected to surpass this height but could be beaten by the Regal hotel.

Roger Holbeche, head of Regal in the UK, said: "We haven't made a formal planning application.

"Discussions are on-going, but they are very positive and are likely to lead to an early application."

The scheme includes conference facilities for up to 1,000 people to complement those of the International Convention Centre.

The Big Bite, a listed building formerly the Left Bank restaurant, would also be incorporated into the development.

If all goes to plan the luxury hotel with conference facilities and apartments above could be completed by 2011.

Mr Holbeche explained: "What we're trying to do is create something within the hotel which plugs the gap in the market.

"There will be ballroom facilities and conference facilities, maybe for up to 1,000 people. Naturally delegates would be stopping on site with the facilities on site.

"We are looking at building something absolutely top quality - one of the bigger buildings in the Birmingham arena.

"Whether it will be as tall as the tower of the proposed V building remains to be seen. It's not quite at a stage where we can say that."

John Lamb, spokesman for the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, said: "I think any iconic building is welcome and obviously it brings the possibility of there being jobs - not only in construction but also in the running of the hotel."

He added if planning permission were to be granted for the hotel, it would relieve an existing lack of hotel accommodation in the city and could attract big events.

In addition, he said this could help attract Chinese Olympic athletes for the London 2012 Olympic Games.

"We already have the US track and field team and there is a big bid to get the Chinese delegation, which is enormous," he said.

"Sometimes you just can't get a hotel room in Birmingham. It will give the city a chance to attract big events."

Broad Street manager Mike Olley also welcomed the proposals.

He said: "We want exciting ideas for Birmingham - we want things that will get people investing the area.

"That can only be good for jobs locally."

[hotwheels]

Hotel Under Construction in New Birmingham District
(http://skyrisecities.com/news/2016/06/hotel-under-construction-new-birmingham-district)

The heart of Birmingham is pulsating with a new urban district that is pumping 1.2 million square feet of mixed-use development into a 9.2-acre site. The transformative project by Arena Central Developments Limited, a joint venture between Miller Developments and Pro Vinci Asset Management, includes an extensive landscaped public realm. http://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/2016/06/21350/21350-73457.jpeg

[ToTheTopNow]

Three Snowhill an Integral Part of Birmingham's "Big City Plan"

http://skyrisecities.com/news/2017/02/three-snowhill-integral-part-birminghams-big-city-plan