DUBAI | Burj Khalifah (Burj Dubai) | 828 M / 2,716.5 FT - Pinnacle | 162 FLOORS

[sw5710]

If you look at #7096 today the 6TH photo down there are 3 windows above the top of tier 23. When topped out at 818m there should be 9 windows above the top of tier 23.:)

[JDRCRASH]

I can't believe this is actually happening........

[jaga185]

This is so exciting, the suspense is killing me! Everyday I'm waiting for this to be topped out. Will the appearance change much if at all when it is? Is it going to get any slimmer than what it is?

[2-TOWERS]

you can get excited now because you will not really notice a difference, anyway will there be any small atennas used for hd or radio ontop this beast of a building.......................................

[sw5710]

I can"t vision any antennas at the top of this building. I also think the plan does not call for any up there.

[Indescribable]

It sure looks rickety up there.

[WilliamTheArtist]

Is there a ladder inside the silver spire? Trying to get a sense of scale for it. It appears to be large enough that a person could easily climb up inside it. Then when you look at the building from afar and see the whole thing, seeing that tiny, slender spire waaay up top, and realizing how big it is, really gives you a sense of scale.

[sw5710]

I read on skyscrapercity that as of 1/11/09 the 7th jacking has been completed. Another 9.6m. The last 9.3m will be on 1/17/09 if all goes well.:banana:

[sw5710]

Is there a ladder inside the silver spire? Trying to get a sense of scale for it. It appears to be large enough that a person could easily climb up inside it. Then when you look at the building from afar and see the whole thing, seeing that tiny, slender spire waaay up top, and realizing how big it is, really gives you a sense of scale.

If you go to page 350 and look at #6992 the 2nd image down is a print showing the spire with the 2 wings near the top. You can see the pipe and inside it is a white circle area you would climb up in. On the upper left is the ladder. The grey area is a landing to stop at in the spire.

[Cypherus]

If you go to page 350 and look at #6992 the 2nd image down is a print showing the spire with the 2 wings near the top. You can see the pipe and inside it is a white circle area you would climb up in. On the upper left is the ladder. The grey area is a landing to stop at in the spire.

What need would there be for the ladder inside this spire? Maybe to hang a flag?

[sw5710]

What need would there be for the ladder inside this spire? Maybe to hang a flag?

Just to climb from the top of tier26 to the aircraft warning lights on top of the silver spire.

[TANGELD_SLC]

the suspence it KILLING ME! :psycho: :irked:

[Imre]

13/January/2009

Burj Dubai

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[STLtoSA]

^ The human spiderman will probably try to climb it, only to get tired half way up.

Well to put its height into even more perspective. El Capitan is 3,000' tall and takes most climbers 2-3 days to make it to the top.

Here is what the Burg would look like (with aweful coloring) in Yosimite:

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[sw5710]

Great shots of burj!:banana:

[drewmandan]

13/January/2009


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Umm...

Ammo for a very large machine gun...maybe?

EDIT: No wait I got it! It's some kind of conveyor toilet plunger system.

[Indescribable]

Those look like they could be for the fountains?

[john]

Hey STLoSA, love the comparison. keep up the good work.:)

[KevinFromTexas]

They look like flood lights actually. Notice the clamps on the round part on top? Like maybe weather proof covers for the light fixtures. I'm not sure why they're that long though.

[Jibba]

^Definitely look like flood lights to me, too.

Haven't checked this in a while; I can't believe it's getting to the final final.

[Aleks]

Hmm... from what I can see it can be two things.

a) Lights to illuminate the setbacks of the buildings at night. Could be that they're long because of the wiring or they're on the side of a service floor on each setback.

b) low intensity water cannons a the base of the tower for small water spouts on the lake or a fountain. The middle row seems to have water cannons while the outer rows light the water spouts.

[sw5710]

I think they are water spouts and the lighting for the fountain. They look like the ones at the bellagio hotel lake when it was empty.

[Imre]

14/January/2009

Burj Dubai

from different locations ( Festival City, Meydan Road, Al Wasl,Al Khail Road,Business Bay Crossing, Satwa etc)

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[Imre]

14/January/2009

Burj Dubai

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[theWatusi]

almost there...

[2-TOWERS]

that is one heck of a zoom lens :)

[Chitown]

Holy shiz. How much do they have left to go, for god's sake?

[Puzzlecraft]

Imre, could you describe the camera equipment / lens / telescope (?) used to take your wonderful super zoom-ins of the Burj. Thanks.

[Nites]

Canon 50D 15.1MP DSLR with Canon EF 70-200mm Lens optical zoom or he was using one of these babies http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://cameralabs.com/reviews/Joby_Gorillapod_SLR_Zoom/images/GorillapodSLRZoom_white.jpg&imgrefurl=http://cameralabs.com/reviews/Joby_Gorillapod_SLR_Zoom/&usg=__6Z9F9EJuE15GqLLycRbXHTyyCow=&h=395&w=300&sz=21&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=f0DTXn-6Zz-1mM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=94&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSLR%2Bcamera%2Bstrongest%2Bzoom%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENCA303%26sa%3DN

[Bergenser]

Now, I like the spire a lot more! :cheers:

[sw5710]

The 4th photo from the last shows all the wings for tiers 23-26 around the spire clearly. Great shot.

[10023]

Holy shiz. How much do they have left to go, for god's sake?

Quite a lot more, actually. It will get narrower and narrower until they reach the top somewhere in low Earth orbit, but by that point the spire can only be seen with an electron microscope.

[Indescribable]

I still say it sure looks flimsy up there.

[SpongeG]

oops

[TANGELD_SLC]

Got an email. :omg: Burj Dubai expected to top out 01/15/08, THAT'S TODAY!!!!!!!! :psycho: :banana: :psycho: :banana: :psycho: :banana: :psycho:

[Cypherus]

Now this is what I call the literal transformation of the word, 'skyscraper.'

[Imre]

Imre, could you describe the camera equipment / lens / telescope (?) used to take your wonderful super zoom-ins of the Burj. Thanks.

Panasonic FZ50 camera

15/January/2009

Burj Dubai

nice weather and the spire moved up while I was taking pics:)

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[staff]

This is one of those pics that just makes you go; "Wow" when considering what Dubai looked like some 15 years ago.

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You couldn't even guess that the city is located in the desert when looking at this photo.

[Imre]

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15/January/2009

Burj Dubai

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[2-TOWERS]

it does look really thin up there, we will have to see how the upper part hold up to the strong winds

[JDRCRASH]

Yeah 2-Towers, it looks like its already starting to sway a bit.

[BrandonJXN]

^ Buildings are supposed to sway. Sears Tower, as massive and as powerful as it looks, sways noticably in the wind. If buildings didn't move a bit, they would probably crumble. The Burj will be fine.

[uaarkson]

I'm pretty sure engineers and architects capable of designing and building an 800m tower are very aware of how wind works.

[Tom In Chicago]

^ Buildings are supposed to sway. Sears Tower, as massive and as powerful as it looks, sways noticably in the wind. If buildings didn't move a bit, they would probably crumble. The Burj will be fine.

Sears Tower sways 6 inches in the wind. . . that's not at all noticable unless your're at the top of the building on a very windy day. . . Burj Dubai might have greater movement at the top, but since the highest points are not occupied, it's not as important to mitigate those movements. . .

. . .

[Aqua Plumber]

Yes the Sears Tower sways 6-8 inches in 60-70mph gusts of wind but is designed to sway up to 36 inches

http://www.wgntv.com/pages/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=2470551

[BrandonJXN]

Here is a video I found for a concept fireworks display for the Burj.

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[M.K.]

Emirates in its new television advertisement considers the tower already done, cause shows pictures like finished as Al Burj Arab is. Shows both buildings as from a while already there...:rolleyes: We know not all exterior is finished, even has too much to do inside.

[gttx]

it does look really thin up there, we will have to see how the upper part hold up to the strong winds

You gotta be kidding me.
Because you certainly won't understand, I won't bother with a discussion of structural engineering, but it's unfathomable to me that you think the top is just a big guess - what, Emaar just throws a few billion at this tower in HOPES that it won't fall over? Engineers just GUESS what will be needed to support the tower?
Why does this issue always come up? People are smart....REALLY smart....and we've had hundreds of years of history building with steel and concrete. Engineers have gotten really good at it, and to think they just glossed over the issue of wind is so laughable it's not even worth discussing.

[M.K.]

Exactly, a thin antenna or whatever spire is not the main problem in wind. Huge plain areas of glass against wind are.

[mikey johnson]

You gotta be kidding me.
Because you certainly won't understand, I won't bother with a discussion of structural engineering, but it's unfathomable to me that you think the top is just a big guess - what, Emaar just throws a few billion at this tower in HOPES that it won't fall over? Engineers just GUESS what will be needed to support the tower?
Why does this issue always come up? People are smart....REALLY smart....and we've had hundreds of years of history building with steel and concrete. Engineers have gotten really good at it, and to think they just glossed over the issue of wind is so laughable it's not even worth discussing.

It does make for a good laugh though...

[Just-In-Cali]

Has anyone else heard the rumor that the spire is a "telescoping" element...meant to be used if any other structure tries to top its height...its would just jack it up further to retain its title, hence all of the disparities about the final height of the structure? Lemme know if anyone knows more about it. I would consider that cheating...but who knows!
LOL

[speedy1979]

Yes the Sears Tower sways 6-8 inches in 60-70mph gusts of wind but is designed to sway up to 36 inches

http://www.wgntv.com/pages/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=2470551

Pretty cool!:tup:

[MiamiSpartan]

Yes the Sears Tower sways 6-8 inches in 60-70mph gusts of wind but is designed to sway up to 36 inches

http://www.wgntv.com/pages/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=2470551

Yeah..I remember going up there back in the 80s on a windy day and the water in the toilet was moving back and forth....I could not feel it move, but the water was a dead giveaway...

[jsr]

If you guys want some of the engineering basics that went into the design:

Engineering the World's Tallest - Burj Dubai (http://www.som.com/resources/content/5/0/4/3/9/0/1/8/documents/SOM_EngineeringtheWorldsTallest.pdf)

Some interesting discussion towards the end on time-dependent effects such as vertical shortening due to creep and shrinkage.

[nickkoto]

Has anyone else heard the rumor that the spire is a "telescoping" element...meant to be used if any other structure tries to top its height...its would just jack it up further to retain its title, hence all of the disparities about the final height of the structure? Lemme know if anyone knows more about it. I would consider that cheating...but who knows!
LOL

I think I heard something like that a couple years ago, that it was being built with an unspecified capacity to add even more height at a later time if someone tried to one-up them. I was kind of thinking that they'd just find a way to pile more floors on the top somewhere, but the idea of the spire being jacked further up would also fit this idea.

[P.Maul]

The ability to jack the spire in the future will not effect the official height. As anyone who follows sky scrapers knows, once the project has been completed and the final height has been released, that is it, you cannot alter it later.
I don't know who sets the rules for this kind of thing, but that is the way it goes. So if they want to fend off any takers in the next few years, they better get jacking now, because soon it will be to late.

No worries though, they'll hold the record for the next 10-12 years at least.:tup:

[Just-In-Cali]

The ability to jack the spire in the future will not effect the official height. As anyone who follows sky scrapers knows, once the project has been completed and the final height has been released, that is it, you cannot alter it later.
I don't know who sets the rules for this kind of thing, but that is the way it goes. So if they want to fend off any takers in the next few years, they better get jacking now, because soon it will be to late.

No worries though, they'll hold the record for the next 10-12 years at least.:tup:

That is true, but the rules seem to change from building to building...and...without sounding accusitory, country to country. They may not have the official title, but thsy could say, rightfully, that their tower remains the tallest. And LOL at the "better get jacking":haha:
(lowbrow, I know...but I couldnt resist.)

[BrandonJXN]

The ability to jack the spire in the future will not effect the official height. As anyone who follows sky scrapers knows, once the project has been completed and the final height has been released, that is it, you cannot alter it later.
I don't know who sets the rules for this kind of thing, but that is the way it goes. So if they want to fend off any takers in the next few years, they better get jacking now, because soon it will be to late.

No worries though, they'll hold the record for the next 10-12 years at least.:tup:

Erm..I give you Chicago's Blue Cross Blue Sheild building which is getting 25 new floors.

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But I guess it goes with the shape of the building. A box wouldn't be hard to build new floors but with a building like the Burj, it would be pretty much impossible.

[drewmandan]

Erm..I give you Chicago's Blue Cross Blue Sheild building which is getting 25 new floors.


I think the line should be drawn at whether or not the addition adds anything to the functionality of the building. For example, you can easily take any building and add a 100 meter flag pole to the top without breaking a sweat. That Blue Cross building is getting 25 habitable floors, which is a matter of actual engineering.

[P.Maul]

So is anyone here willing to live in the spire and make it habitable?

sry for the digression...

[BrandonJXN]

I think the line should be drawn at whether or not the addition adds anything to the functionality of the building. For example, you can easily take any building and add a 100 meter flag pole to the top without breaking a sweat. That Blue Cross building is getting 25 habitable floors, which is a matter of actual engineering.

I can give you another example to this. In 2002, the Conde Nast Building in NYC installed a very large antenna to it's roof to replace the one lost on 1WTC during 9/11. Interestingly enough, it made the building look much better.

Before: http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/green/images/conde.jpg

After: http://www.gonetonyc.com/uploaded_images/4times_square-768904.jpg

Now I don't know if the Burj's spire actually does anything other than some pretty decroation but I would like to think that if it does infact extends it, that it would serve some sort of purpose and not for the sake of doing it.

[Imre]

16/January/2009

Burj Dubai

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Burj Dubai,D1 and Versace Palazzo

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[malec]

I love those sunset type pictures.

[mr.steevo]

Hi,

Impressive building. But what are they going to fill it with? Are there enough people in Dubai to fill a building that size?

s.

[howardroark]

Does anyone know the occupancy of this building?

[Aleks]

Enough to get this things built!

[Imre]

17/January/2009

Burj Dubai

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[br.reese]

unbelievable

[Dac150]

Have to give credit where credit is due. It's not my favorite looking building, but it's an accomplishment in many regards. I look foward to seeing it fully clad.

[JDRCRASH]

Enough to get this things built!

I'd have to disagree.

[2-TOWERS]

looks like its at the end of the line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! great building with alot of character , :)

[gttx]

I'd have to disagree.

The real question SHOULD be: why does any building get built? If you answer that, then the discussion of "where is the demand?" may answer itself, or at least become a non-issue.

[kensmith]

does anyone know when the crane will come down?

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

First: Awesome shots of this incredible tower, Imre. If you haven't thought of it already, I'd suggest that you could make a really great documentary book out of them. :tup:

Second: I'd love to know what those little fins are, spiralling around the spire... they definitely make it more interesting than just a pole. Are they purely aesthetic, or might they be mounts for small antennas, or have something to do with the winds up there?

[Bergenser]

Congratulation Dubai!
Great highrise.

[Imre]

17/January/2009

Burj Dubai (today PART 2 )

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[MrLakepoint]

Enough to get this things built!

Sorry to say that is not how it works there. Before you jump into a conversation understand other countries criteria of building something. They are not like us and there is a huge reason why they have adapted a Western type atmosphere of building. They will run out Oil in the next 10 years. The Dubai (Royalty) is building because he know that people will come there eventually and buy. They dont need 40 or 50% owners before they will build it.

[Kon133]

Burj Dubai Topped Out 818m

17th January 2009: Burj Dubai T/O at 818m :banana: :previous:

[Lt. Washburn]

I think the line should be drawn at whether or not the addition adds anything to the functionality of the building. For example, you can easily take any building and add a 100 meter flag pole to the top without breaking a sweat. That Blue Cross building is getting 25 habitable floors, which is a matter of actual engineering.

Why? No seriously, why is it so dang important if something is functional or not. I have no problem giving the height record to a 10 story building with a 2000 meter pole on top. It's the tallest. It's not the most floors, or building with the highest floor. Some other building can have those records. Why does it matter?

[mersar]

does anyone know when the crane will come down?

Not for a while yet is my guess, there is still a lot of glass to be installed.

[Fury]

Hi all.

Here is a labelled shot from Imre. This is a day for the history books guys.

We are Topped out !!!

http://a.imagehost.org/0051/Spire_jacking_5_Topped_out.jpg

This has been a fantastic structure to watch grow and even though it will not grow any more there is lots of work to do yet.
- Finish up tier 22 sections.
- Finish attaching the small wings of tiers 22 and 23 to the pinnacle pipe.
- Finish all the cladding.
- Do the crane disassembly proceedure.
- Finish all the work at the base.
- Do all the interior finish and fitout.

We still have near a year to go before completion. I hope site visits are allowed again so we can see some of that interior work.

:cheers:

[Tom In Chicago]

great news. . . thanks for the updates. . .

[sw5710]

:banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers: :banana:

[JDRCRASH]

I have to admit, its beautiful.:yes: But it just doesn't belong for reasons which I will not mention for the sake of keeping this thread on-topic.

[Freedomtower Mikey]

Why? No seriously, why is it so dang important if something is functional or not. I have no problem giving the height record to a 10 story building with a 2000 meter pole on top. It's the tallest. It's not the most floors, or building with the highest floor. Some other building can have those records. Why does it matter?

so I will put a 3,000 ft flag pole on top of my house, should my house receive the title as the tallest building in the world? :yuck:

[GO_UAE]

This building is perfect mikey , knock it off :D look how beautifuly and perfectly the spire fits right in to the building as a whole ;)

[Fury]

Hi all.

Here is a timetable for the jacking proceedure.

http://a.imagehost.org/0906/Spire_Pinnacle_Jacking_Timetable.jpg

Here is my set of pic to plan comparisons - complete now as of today's top out.

http://a.imagehost.org/0439/6_section_23_to_top_of_pinnacle.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0131/5_level_156_to_section_22B.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0729/4_level_112_to_155_Mezz.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0826/3_level_53_to_111.jpg
http://a.imagehost.org/0431/2_level_5_to_52.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0125/1_raft_to_level_6.jpg

Here is a link to a zip file containing my Burj Dubai Plan and Tier Methodology containing plan heights, concrete pours, tier arrangements, etc. to help peek in behind Emaar's ludicrous (at this point) veil of secrecy. :)

BD_Plan_and_Methodology.zip (1.4 MB) (http://a.imagehost.org/download/0538/BD_Plan_and_Methodology)

What a magnificent structure.

:cheers:

[PhxPavilion]

Why? No seriously, why is it so dang important if something is functional or not. I have no problem giving the height record to a 10 story building with a 2000 meter pole on top. It's the tallest. It's not the most floors, or building with the highest floor. Some other building can have those records. Why does it matter?

It would be the tallest man made structure purely by definition but it would not be the tallest building. For a structure to qualify as a building it must have a purpose, typically that's to house people. Antennae/spires are just steel lattice stacked on top of each other, hardly amazing.

[GO_UAE]

hardly amazing.

:tongue4: :kiss:

[GO_UAE]

Source:-

Name: oSDDo - Skyscrapercity
Link: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17943391

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/17943391.jpg

[2-TOWERS]

even without the spire , go to the last tier ( tier 26 )and you still have the tallest building by a long shot , this has 205 floors ?

[graham]

:tomato:

[Freedomtower Mikey]

This building is perfect mikey , knock it off :D look how beautifuly and perfectly the spire fits right in to the building as a whole ;)

you miss understood me bro, the building is very sexy. My post had nothing really to do with the building, I was just proving a point about spires and flag poles in general
It would be the tallest man made structure purely by definition but it would not be the tallest building. For a structure to qualify as a building it must have a purpose, typically that's to house people. Antennae/spires are just steel lattice stacked on top of each other, hardly amazing.
right, so why should a lets say 2,000ft building with a 1,000 foot spire take the title away from the Burji Dubai? If its not functional, it shouldn't count

[Tom In Chicago]

^Keep it on topic. . . this isn't the place to discuss your opinions on spires vs. roofs. . . take it to the appropriate forum if you wish to do so. . .

. . .

[Tom In Chicago]

Any more comments regarding spires vs. roofs will be met with a 3 day suspension. . .

[sw5710]

Does anyone know how the spire pipe that has been jacked up will be held in place at the bottom?

[kenratboy]

It almost looks a little fat at the top. Guess I was expecting much more 'spire' on the top.

Looks awesome, though. Cannot believe its finally T/O, been watching this building since it was a basement!

[sw5710]

Ok Now Back To The Subject "please":!!!!!!!!:

[Jasonhouse]

Dude, your just asking for trouble, Mikey....he may ban you for being smart like that.

Actually, I will... This is his 7th dust up in less than a month here. The kid is a troll.


Back to the topic please.

[deja vu]

the proportions of this building are mind-blowing. Tier 30 alone is taller than any buildings in my hometown.