DUBAI | Burj Khalifah (Burj Dubai) | 828 M / 2,716.5 FT - Pinnacle | 162 FLOORS

[STR]

:previous: Go to link above STR ... :shrug: Besix .. No ?

Apparently you don't know anything about looking up domain names. I needed to look up that url to get the registrant.

It can still be a hoax. A fancy Besix image and a fake webpage can be made in an hour or so. And does the page only ask for a login name? Why no password? Even SSP, a public site, will ask you for a password.

This smells. And unless there is more proof than what little has been provided, I will dismiss it. Granted, it is compelling, but it's still unverified.

[graham]

The final tip height will be decided within a wide range after sway measurements are taken from the top of the concrete portion.
New chemical agents that can strengthen concrete have finished testing with good results and can be added to the concrete mix in an effort to minimize concrete top sway. This new mix needs to start pouring before the 100fl level.
If concrete sway (albeit small, but after transfer to steel it is multiplied) can be controlled to less than previously estimated, a few additional levels of concrete can be poured since the foundation has reserve strength for the weight.
The new higher concrete top level is still expected to have less sway than the old concrete top level.
The spire will be redesigned higher based on less sway as measured.
The spire can be redesigned higher at the uppermost levels (last 50 to 60 meters) using aircraft materials (read carbon fiber, the best racing sailboats are using this now for a good reason) to inrease stiffness, achieve less weight, and thereby reduce sway.
Material upgrades and ongoing redesigns based on improved sway control techniques can bring the final spire height to an estimated 888 meters.
This is the latest estimate based on the latest sway predictions.
Actual final height will be based on sucess at sway control.
As the tower continues to go up this remains an unknown.
This is measured on a daily basis and in different wind conditions so that redesigns can be done at the earlist point.

As with all unprecedented construction, it is not possible to just design and build.
Design is fluid according to performance to date, unexpected challenges, unexpected better or worse than previously calculateds, and ongoing materials research.

888M is the best estimate at present thanks to concrete stiffeners and spire material redesign. Unforseen performance changes for better or worse could mean anywhere from 808M to 928M.

A spire that could be lowered in high wind and spire support sections with open portals thru girders to reduce wind pressure buildup are ideas being researched.

Also a counterweight system (like the one in Taipai 101, only smaller) just for the spire not the whole building, and operational only when the spire is extended during low winds ( for record attempts ) could extend the final height to the almighty 1000M. But this goal is expected to require some additional new technology and many million dollars more to achieve.

I expect computers to play a huge role in sway control if 1000 meters is achieved. Total weight is limited but height is unlimited when weight and sway remain under control.

For future buildings, new research that incorporates ways to augment counterweights with top thrusters under computer control is the future and may allow 20:1 height to base ratios. Of course multiple redundant thruster backup systems would be required. Mutli mega millions.

New projects may try for 1600M by 2020 and I'll predict it happens in Dubai.
:tup: :tup: :tup: :D :D :D

On the other hand I could be talking out my ass.
But it sure is fun. :jester:

[Fury]

STR Your right, it could be a hoax - It was a subtle joke for @#$% sakes !!
Actually I am very informed on ip numbers and names. I go to IANA, ICANN, and ARIN regularly and am aware of their WHOIS services. I am well versed in IPv6 and keep up on the news. I am A-plus and N-plus certified as of 2002 so don't be so assuming with your posts. I love your renders and input here STR but leave the condiscending attitude outside.


Oh ya, did I say I love this structure ? :cheers:

[AltinD]

I don't know if the info is true or fake but do you REALLY think that someone who wants to remain anonymous will let you identify him by scrutinysing the link he posted?

[Sky Tower]

The final tip height will be decided within a wide range after sway measurements are taken from the top of the concrete portion.
New chemical agents that can strengthen concrete have finished testing with good results and can be added to the concrete mix in an effort to minimize concrete top sway. This new mix needs to start pouring before the 100fl level.
If concrete sway (albeit small, but after transfer to steel it is multiplied) can be controlled to less than previously estimated, a few additional levels of concrete can be poured since the foundation has reserve strength for the weight.
The new higher concrete top level is still expected to have less sway than the old concrete top level.
The spire will be redesigned higher based on less sway as measured.
The spire can be redesigned higher at the uppermost levels (last 50 to 60 meters) using aircraft materials (read carbon fiber, the best racing sailboats are using this now for a good reason) to inrease stiffness, achieve less weight, and thereby reduce sway.
Material upgrades and ongoing redesigns based on improved sway control techniques can bring the final spire height to an estimated 888 meters.
This is the latest estimate based on the latest sway predictions.
Actual final height will be based on sucess at sway control.
As the tower continues to go up this remains an unknown.
This is measured on a daily basis and in different wind conditions so that redesigns can be done at the earlist point.

As with all unprecedented construction, it is not possible to just design and build.
Design is fluid according to performance to date, unexpected challenges, unexpected better or worse than previously calculateds, and ongoing materials research.

888M is the best estimate at present thanks to concrete stiffeners and spire material redesign. Unforseen performance changes for better or worse could mean anywhere from 808M to 928M.

A spire that could be lowered in high wind and spire support sections with open portals thru girders to reduce wind pressure buildup are ideas being researched.

Also a counterweight system (like the one in Taipai 101, only smaller) just for the spire not the whole building, and operational only when the spire is extended during low winds ( for record attempts ) could extend the final height to the almighty 1000M. But this goal is expected to require some additional new technology and many million dollars more to achieve.

I expect computers to play a huge role in sway control if 1000 meters is achieved. Total weight is limited but height is unlimited when weight and sway remain under control.

For future buildings, new research that incorporates ways to augment counterweights with top thrusters under computer control is the future and may allow 20:1 height to base ratios. Of course multiple redundant thruster backup systems would be required. Mutli mega millions.

New projects may try for 1600M by 2020 and I'll predict it happens in Dubai.
:tup: :tup: :tup: :D :D :D

On the other hand I could be talking out my ass.
But it sure is fun. :jester:

Interesting updates. Although I'm bemused as to all the different conflicting info we're seeing. I'm not sure what to believe anymore!

Interesting though all the same.

I did a 1km model 4 months ago as a joke! I never thought of there being a possibility it could actually happen. Interested, scepticle and a little excited, all at the same time. I love it! :tup:

[STR]

STR Your right, it could be a hoax - It was a subtle joke for @#$% sakes !!

Subtle? I'll give the benefit of the doubt on that one. Your humour needs work though. :whip:

Oh ya, did I say I love this structure?

It's a nice one, but people need to stop making up BS about it (I'm not calling anyone specific out there a BS'er).

I don't know if the info is true or fake but do you REALLY think that someone who wants to remain anonymous will let you identify him by scrutinysing the link he posted?

Apparently you missed the point entirely. Because of that, I'm going to point out the 3 major problems with the so-called "intranet" link.

1) It's not registered by the same organization. Why would a company go out of its way to set up a dummy corp, based in a country completely different from its home nation, to set up what's already a secure website?
2) It's only registered for two years. Billion dollar companies almost ALWAYS register their domains for the full 10 years. The cost difference to them is nothing.
3) The intranet link is hosted by a 3rd party. Do you think a company that went through all the hassle of of registering a site through Poole, UK (which Besix has no majore presense) would use a public host like that? The host could look at their data. Not very secure.

Thus it is not about identifying the poster. He can have his anonymity, it really isn't that relavent. What is important is that the proof that is presented is logical and verfiable.

[Hollie Maea]

Regarding the site where the "Besix" information is posted, there is no question whatsoever that the site is not affiliated with Besix in anyway. If you check the google cache of the site, you will find that very recently it was a bankruptcy adwords optimizer site or some such. Now, it is possible that someone with access to Besix's internal pages (which you would not be able to access without being on their corporate network) grabbed them and dumped them on some website that they had. But, like some have already mentioned, the so-called login page looks very suspect. It is ludicrous to imagine a login page that required a username but no password.

[malec]

How a 1km burj would look like:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/959/big1xh0.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5748/big3kc5.jpg


Scroll:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6397/big2ac4.jpg

[Sky Tower]

:previous: Nice model Malec :tup:

See the similarities?

http://www.dreamweaverstudios.co.uk/images/burj_renders/burj.jpg
http://www.dreamweaverstudios.co.uk/images/burj_renders/burj2.jpg

http://www.dreamweaverstudios.co.uk/images/burj_renders/burj5.jpg
http://www.dreamweaverstudios.co.uk/images/burj_renders/burj8.jpg

.....my 1000m version from about 4 months ago!

[dubai 1]

the last occupied floors are at 624m (2047feet) what a Huge waste of unused floor area after that. they should at least go for 700M

[Sky Tower]

:previous: Have you read the previous page?

According to TechE, the highest balcony is +915m :shrug:

[Nowhereman1280]

:previous: Have you read the previous page?

According to TechE, the highest balcony is +915m :shrug:

I don't know what that "highest balcony" number refers to, but the "Useable roof height" is "760m" according to that site, so no, the roof is not 915m, its 760m according to TechE...

[Slugbelch]

Dec. 17:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6162/bd121706sepnoutey9.png

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3398/bd121706weldelhashemipg3.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6130/bd120806thechrisemchronfv6.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4040/dubai1ym1.jpg
sepnout/weldelhashemi/thechrisemchronicles

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2452/burj20renderingaz4.jpg:previous:
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/6374/burj20renderingfn4.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burj20renderingfn4.jpg):hell:

[westsider]

:previous: Have you read the previous page?

According to TechE, the highest balcony is +915m :shrug:




TechE is full of it, him claiming 915m doesnt mean a thing.

[Slugbelch]

Dec. 16:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2804/bd121606simonjplattwm8.jpg
simonjplatt

[PuyoPiyo]

Those picture updated at Dec. 17 look like it is almost 400 meters already comparing to that tallest hotel in the world tower at about 300 meters. Was I wrong?

[Slugbelch]

Hi all.
Nice ones Slugbelch. Now if Arabtec could get their Oct '06 pic workin' ... :haha: :cheers:
It's now workin'. Thanks Arabtec

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6081/nov2006pw0.jpghttp://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1089/oct2006or3.jpg
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http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8757/bdjan190638pi.jpghttp://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4663/bdjan190624ca.jpg

[AltinD]

Apparently you missed the point entirely. Because of that, I'm going to point out the 3 major problems with the so-called "intranet" link.

1) It's not registered by the same organization. Why would a company go out of its way to set up a dummy corp, based in a country completely different from its home nation, to set up what's already a secure website?
2) It's only registered for two years. Billion dollar companies almost ALWAYS register their domains for the full 10 years. The cost difference to them is nothing.
3) The intranet link is hosted by a 3rd party. Do you think a company that went through all the hassle of of registering a site through Poole, UK (which Besix has no majore presense) would use a public host like that? The host could look at their data. Not very secure.

It seams that you, and not me, missed the point. All I'm saying is that no one in their sane mind will publish sensitive and confidential data by linking directly to their company's intranet.

Presuming that the document is real and existing on the BESIX intranet, the person who posted it, either had access to it and decided to make it public or the net was hacked and access to that specific document was gained. In either case, it will be logical to use some dodgy websites to host the link. Also it was clear that the person wanted to make clear from where the document had generated, hence the reference to Besix.

What I'm trying to point out is that, , as far as the authenticity of the info is concearned, it doesn't mean anything at all from which site the link came it.

[STR]

Even if one was to believe everything you said, it still doesn't explain the horrifically poor attempt to create an intranet login page. And then there's the fact that the html on the page was misformatted, hardly something a pro would do. And finally, if TechE did indeed post it on another website, you'd think he'd tell us. He didn't, as he hoped we would be able to see through is poor attempt at a lie.

H.O.A.X.

[malec]

^^ He never said he actually believes the guy

[Slugbelch]

^ This is great. All from somebodys first post

Dec. 15:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2521/bd121506simonloxhamhg8.jpg
simonloxham

[sask1982]

Let's hope that the new year will bring us cladding, otherwise I will be another believing that the interior will be finished before the cladding is put on haha.

[STR]

^^ He never said he actually believes the guy

Perhaps, but I'll edit my reply appropriately anyway.

I really can't see anyone believing the guy after all that has been turned up anyway. You'd have to be pretty desparate to buy into it.

[Bergenser]

Here is an animation of the construction of the Burj from October 05 - September 06. :D

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3957/animation1wr3.gif

[vanhenrik]

very nice ! i wonder how it wold feel ti sitt in one of the cranins ?
December 18th 2006 - Level 96 - Height 350.40m - Currently the 13th tallest highrise building in the world!

[gixer]

That's cool. Imagine that animation going another year forward and the tower still growing up. It is going to be damn high...:worship:

[Slugbelch]

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/3068/article1783bd95levels12ms9.jpg
Burj Dubai is 95 levels high (http://www.propertyworldme.com/content/html/1783.asp)
Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 08:05

Billed to be the tallest tower in the world, Burj Dubai employs the latest advances in engineering technology to complete the project on-schedule.

Currently 329 metres high, Burj Dubai has used 235,000 cubic metres of reinforced concrete and 44,200 tonnes of reinforcing steel, to date. At the current height, Burj Dubai is taller than the Burj Al Arab at 321 metres, but short of the Emirates Towers office tower which stands at 355 metres - the only other building in Dubai that is presently taller than Burj Dubai.

With a development value of AED 3.673 billion (US$1 billion), Burj Dubai will encompass retail, residential and commercial components. A highlight is The Armani Hotel, Dubai, developed by Emaar in association with haute couture major Giorgio Armani S.p.A. Burj Dubai is engineered after extensive planning to withstand wind forces, high summer temperatures and seismic forces.

Related article here (http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/UAE/207516)
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/1087/bd121706albawabaca4.jpg

[Slugbelch]

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1258/bd121806stepnoutwa0.jpg
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/5084/bd121806stepnoutxrq1.jpg
Original:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6582/bd121806stepnoutrsve0.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd121806stepnoutrsve0.jpg)
stepnout

[keelanfish]

In almost all the renderings/sketches I have seen previously in this thread it looks as if the bottom 1/3 of the structure will be concrete and the top 2/3 will be steel. If it is already 329 meters tall, and from what I can tell they are still pouring concrete, won't this mean the structure might be far taller than currently estimated? Either that or the renderings are completely wrong or they have an exaggerated scale for the steel portion of the building that I'm not picking up on. Any opinions?

[Sky Tower]

:previous: I'm not sure which references you've been looking at but maybe you're mis-interperating them! :shrug:

The last official update we've had is the steel will start around about L152

It would be silly to spend millions of dollars building the worlds most powerful concrete pump specifically for this structure, that can push the "magic sauce" to around to around 550m and not use it!

I'd say around only 1/6th of the building is steel, the rest is grey stuff! ;)

[Fury]

Hi all.
Found this site - many nice pics - older but new

http://www.stephanecompoint.com/11,480.html

Lots of stuff hiding ... more comes out every day - love it !!
:cheers:

[Sky Tower]

Great find Fury. One to bookmark for sure!
Some rare above the core shots too....nice! :tup:

Oh, you forgot to say "Greatest structure in the world" (quadrouple dancing bananas) :haha:

[STR]

Seems TechE took the official webpage and (incorrectly) altered the text. View the page source, it's almost identical, even the image locations. All he did was buy a website domain, some hosting and copied his fake to his site.

That's a lot of effort for no reason. Come back TechE, explain why you'd try to fake us.

http://www.besix.com/en/markets/buildings/Detail.aspx?id=29

[Fury]

:D :haha: :D
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Hollie Maea]

Good find, STR. The directory structure for the linked pictures didn't fit on the site that TechE posted, but they fit perfectly there. It was an interesting hoax; in some cases it looked as if he had really gone out of his way to cover small details to make it look realistic, and yet in other cases it was just ridiculous (such as the passwordless login page). Some people have a lot of time on their hands I guess.

[Slugbelch]

Found this site - many nice pics - older but new

http://www.stephanecompoint.com/11,480.html

Lots of stuff hiding ... more comes out every day - love it !!Absolutely!

Old stuff is just as good to see as the new stuff. Here's another never-before-posted oldie but goody from 2 months ago (Oct 20):

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1958/bd102006berniewarmingtoom7.jpg

[Hollie Maea]

:previous: Imagine that shot when the huge Index towers right ahead, with the Burj Dubai way behind towering above it.

[DUBAI2015]

95 stories tall and still no glass!! :(

WHEN?! :shrug:

[vanhenrik]

95 stories tall and still no glass!! :(

WHEN?! :shrug:



i think it will come in a round 120 130 th floor !

[Steely Dan]

enough squabbling about the hoax issue.

keep the thread on topic about BD, not fake websites.

this thread will be reopened after a time-out to allow clearer heads to prevail. do not start any new BD threads.

[Fury]

Hi all.
Nov 15 '06 ...

http://i14.tinypic.com/448scx5.jpg

[Sky Tower]

It's nice to see some older images of the podium developements.
Anyone got some recent updates on the podium area?

[Sky Tower]

Here's a new copyrighted image of BD taken this afternoon by Stepnout today at Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepnout/327369260/

[Steely Dan]

any further posts in this thread that are not about BD itself will result in suspensions being handed out. this section of the forum has a zero-tolerance policy for drama.

final warning folks.

[Fury]

Hi all.
Gee, almost echo's :rolleyes:

06 12 18 Flickr

http://i11.tinypic.com/2jb4eh1.jpg

:cheers:

[Sky Tower]

Who can count how many cranes in this pic of Burj Dubai?

Culwulla - 19th Dec
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2521/bd121506simonloxhamhg8.jpg

[TechE]

Ahem....... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=10941686&postcount=338

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/197/imagineashorthistoryofthz7.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2084/imagineashorthistoryoftew2.jpg

[Rejinx]

Who can count how many cranes in this pic of Burj Dubai?

Damn, I count 26, but I could have missed some.

[Julito-Dubai]

As the upper floors are "private" they might have a separate lift system... TechE, where do you have the pictures from? They look interesting...

[TechE]

Yes they do.
That lift is from the lift deck on level 121 to the last office lobby on 189.
Last mechanical floors on levels 190-191.
Private lifts from levels 193-204.
204-216 accessed by central composite spiral staircase.
To reiterate, the official useable roof height will be the last enclosed balcony on the top of the private floor on level 216@ 915m ish.
Highest public roof space will be on T21 on level 169@ around 715m.
87 floors have been raised in height by 1.6m including all luxury apartments.
Smallest floor height from level 75 is 4.8m
Final floor average on completion will be +4.2m per level

[Tom In Chicago]

204-216 accessed by central composite spiral staircase.

What am I missing here???

[Daquan13]

The tower is really starting to show its dominance there now!

[gixer]

Burj Dubai will be the tallest tower in Dubai very soon. It is just two feet below the tallest, Emirates Tower. According to http://www.dubaimegaprojects.com/: December 20 th 2006 - Level 97 - Height 354.05m:notacrook:
Just a couple of days to wait...or less...:banana:

[Bergenser]

can't wait! :D

[vanhenrik]

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2006/12/burj-dubai-tower-dec-14-01.jpg


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:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

have a nice cristmas ewery one out there !

[Nowhereman1280]

^^^ Wow that's one comprehensive update! Nice work Vanhenrik!

[DUBAI2015]

^ I second that!

BTW, Nice pictures of the Burj al Arab

[Sky Tower]

Thanks for the huge collection of Imre's photo's from last week Vanhenrik!
It must have taken you ages!

Yes they do.
That lift is from the lift deck on level 121 to the last office lobby on 189.
Last mechanical floors on levels 190-191.
Private lifts from levels 193-204.
204-216 accessed by central composite spiral staircase.
To reiterate, the official useable roof height will be the last enclosed balcony on the top of the private floor on level 216@ 915m ish.
Highest public roof space will be on T21 on level 169@ around 715m.
87 floors have been raised in height by 1.6m including all luxury apartments.
Smallest floor height from level 75 is 4.8m
Final floor average on completion will be +4.2m per level

:previous: I don't meen to be rude, but where on earth do you get your info from?
I understand that you wish to remain annonymous, but to a certain extent we all are here with our seudonyms etc...... and all have an element of annonimity.
Like it or not, your first post caused mass hysteria and excitement, a first I believe! - Well done ;)
Your second post caused both SSP/SSC servers to crash with multiple positive and negative responses (and even caused an influx of hardcore SSC forumers to register here just too, just to join in the shinnanigans!):shrug:
Your 3rd post caused so much ambivolence, it culminated in the deletion of multiple posts and archived tower renders, strained long term friendships, name calling, moderator intervention and the complete administratored lockdown of this thread for the whole day, also a first I believe. :sly:

And now this.......
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/197/imagineashorthistoryofthz7.jpg

and this..........

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2084/imagineashorthistoryoftew2.jpg

Man, are you gettin your kicks outta windin' us all up or are you for real?
If you seriously aren't full of BS, them PM me.....I may have a job for you.
Or you can mail me via the website in my signature.
If not, I will heir on the side of caution as others will and remain scepticle on these figures, at least until I see it go above 808m or an evident design change that verifies your claims. I think that is fair and I think a few others would probably agree?
Any decent hard evidence of this stuff (which you must have if true) is worth something if you catch my drift? :tup:

Kudos! And a Merry Christmas to you too! :cheers:

[Beyond 1000]

Thanks for the huge collection of Imre's photo's from last week Vanhenrik!
It must have taken you ages!



:previous: I don't meen to be rude, but where on earth do you get your info from?
I understand that you wish to remain annonymous, but to a certain extent we all are here with our seudonyms etc...... and all have an element of annonimity.
Like it or not, your first post caused mass hysteria and excitement, a first I believe! - Well done ;)
Your second post caused both SSP/SSC servers to crash with multiple positive and negative responses (and even caused an influx of hardcore SSC forumers to register here just too, just to join in the shinnanigans!):shrug:
Your 3rd post caused so much ambivolence, it culminated in the deletion of multiple posts and archived tower renders, strained long term friendships, name calling, moderator intervention and the complete administratored lockdown of this thread for the whole day, also a first I believe. :sly:

And now this.......
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/197/imagineashorthistoryofthz7.jpg

and this..........

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2084/imagineashorthistoryoftew2.jpg

Man, are you gettin your kicks outta windin' us all up or are you for real?
If you seriously aren't full of BS, them PM me.....I may have a job for you.
Or you can mail me via the website in my signature.
If not, I will heir on the side of caution as others will and remain scepticle on these figures, at least until I see it go above 808m or an evident design change that verifies your claims. I think that is fair and I think a few others would probably agree?
Any decent hard evidence of this stuff (which you must have if true) is worth something if you catch my drift? :tup:

Kudos! And a Merry Christmas to you too! :cheers:


If the Burj Dubai really goes that tall, it would be the ultimate joy to everybody on this thread. Thanks for all the info TechE but I do agree with Skytower on this. Can you possibly give us or him (Skytower) more information on the validity of your claims? PM Skytower. Work with him and don't give up your anonymity. We don't question on what you say if it CAN be done, the issue here is WILL it really be done. These are huge height increases you mention. I do believe it will be taller than 808m but man oh man you are stating some stratospheric numbers.

All the best. :)

[nezzybaby]

^i disagree, if the burj dubai goes that tall it will look absolutely ridiculous, the 808m tower would be perfectly in proportion, effectively looking like an even cone all the way up, the sizes tech suggests would look like the steel section was stretched far too far, with the right sized spire and the right sized concrete section. WE KNOW the concrete will not go past 154 floors, by that stage the floor plans are being reduced, we do not want the finished product to look like a pyramid with a ridiculously stretched top

[ZZ-II]

will see glass now!!!

[vanhenrik]

December 21st 2006 - Level 97 - Height 354.05m - Currently the 13th tallest highrise building in the world



http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2006/burj-dubai-2006-second-half.jpg


http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2006/burj-renders.jpg


http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/progressbar.gif


this is me end i wonder wat you other pepole tink a bout my looks ??

http://u.helgon.net/u/{beb/{beb9d8ae-38ad-4124-8b38-f40043f0b038}.jpg

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Sky Tower]

^i disagree, if the burj dubai goes that tall it will look absolutely ridiculous, the 808m tower would be perfectly in proportion, effectively looking like an even cone all the way up, the sizes tech suggests would look like the steel section was stretched far too far, with the right sized spire and the right sized concrete section. WE KNOW the concrete will not go past 154 floors, by that stage the floor plans are being reduced, we do not want the finished product to look like a pyramid with a ridiculously stretched top

Yeah, the concrete floors may only go to the 154th floor; but if the height of each of the floors has risen by 1.6m from floor 75 then the concrete part will be 126m higher than originally stated so the concrete height structure would go from 531m to 657m and could look more integral by elongating the setbacks perhaps? :shrug:

If this is right then they will need secondary concrete pumping from 550m upwards!

:previous: As wonderful as you look Vanhenrik, the thread you're looking for is located at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115250

;)

[AZheat]

Vanhenrik,
Your photo of yourself looks just fine but I've got to ask a question. Where do you live and what is your native language? (actually that's two questions) Sometimes I can't tell if english is a second language or if you're just putting us on. Anyway, thanks for your diagrams and renders and have a nice Christmas wherever you are.

[vanhenrik]

Vanhenrik,
Your photo of yourself looks just fine but I've got to ask a question. Where do you live and what is your native language? (actually that's two questions) Sometimes I can't tell if english is a second language or if you're just putting us on. Anyway, thanks for your diagrams and renders and have a nice Christmas wherever you are.


i live in sweaden in the city karlskoga karlskoga in knownd ass nobel livd in end that we got the companey bofors end nobel industrees

[Hollie Maea]

Yeah, the concrete floors may only go to the 154th floor; but if the height of each of the floors has risen by 1.6m from floor 75 then the concrete part will be 126m higher than originally stated so the concrete height structure would go from 531m to 657m and could look more integral by elongating the setbacks perhaps? :shrug:



You can measure some of the high resolution pictures that have been posted and see clearly that the floor heights have not increase by 1.6m above floor 75. It is hard to measure perfectly, but you can get close enough to see that it doesn't approach this number.

[Sky Tower]

:previous: Well we know the standard levels below L72 are 3.2m in height.
In your expert opinion, what height do you make the raised floor levels and what methed did you use to come up wih your figure?

[vanhenrik]

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5902/burjspireng2.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4552/burjcloserw1.jpg

http://web.mac.com/joseveber/iWeb/010010010/SOM_files/U.png


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/551/40674168tallestbuild9ap7.gif

a bout 2 years a go

http://i12.tinypic.com/482p0g2.jpg


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4931/burjdubaielevationfebid5.jpg


http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2504/dec19lev96cg4.jpg


http://s08.picshome.com/714/144930_1166434720.jpg


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http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2900/pictmddnbdyhfnywu1mdw8oxe6.jpg


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1580/pictmddnbdyhfnywu1mdw8oya7.jpg


http://i10.tinypic.com/33lkwtl.jpg


http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9250/burjdubelavtca3.jpg

[Fury]

Hi all.
Vanhenrik - none of those pics are new.
people have been politely trying to let you know that all the pics you post have been posted already.
Great effort man, old pics are great, but reposted ones are not. Look back through the pages first . :shrug: :cheers:

[Hollie Maea]

:previous: Well we know the standard levels below L72 are 3.2m in height.
In your expert opinion, what height do you make the raised floor levels and what methed did you use to come up wih your figure?

Haha...I don't call myself an expert in any way. Regardless, I think the floors above L72 are about 3.4m. What I did was find the highest resolution picture I could find. I took that into photoshop, blew it way up and then measured the pixels between a floor below the mechanical floors and then one of the ones above it. Now, this definitely is not an exact science. I couldn't find any super high resolution pictures from recent enough, though the one I used was high enough to get close. Also, of course any picture is going to have the sizes decreasing farther up, since the upper floors are farther away from the camera. The picture I chose was taken from a long way away, which minimized this. Also, I compared the floors right below and right above the mechanical floors to minimize the discrepancy. Still not perfect, but close. The result I got was a bit under 10 percent, which is how I come up with 3.4m. To my eye, it looks a little bit more of an increase so I expected a higher number when I measured, though definitely not 1.6 meters, which would be a 50 percent increase. Anyway, I'm sure someone could do take a stab at doing a better job of estimating.

[Sky Tower]

:previous: Here's one I prepared earlier :jester:


3.2m levels at the bottom of the pic......4.6m ones at the top! :tup:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/703/img6133ql8.jpg

Also, if you use the perspective vectoring tool (Photoshop CS2 Pro users only) it vectors 3 small floors to 2 large ones (50% increase)

Oh, by the way......

IT IS NOW THE TALLEST BUILDING IN DUBAI @ 357.72M

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE :hug:

[Arriviste]

Holy Shit, I cant get over this. I am appreciating the size (not height) of burj far more than I did a few weeks or months ago. It's absolutely jaw dropping.

[Bergenser]

these are awsome Vanhenrik!

http://s08.picshome.com/714/144930_1166434720.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/33lkwtl.jpg

[Kent76]

Originally Posted by TechE
Yes they do.
That lift is from the lift deck on level 121 to the last office lobby on 189.
Last mechanical floors on levels 190-191.
Private lifts from levels 193-204.
204-216 accessed by central composite spiral staircase.
To reiterate, the official useable roof height will be the last enclosed balcony on the top of the private floor on level 216@ 915m ish.
Highest public roof space will be on T21 on level 169@ around 715m.
87 floors have been raised in height by 1.6m including all luxury apartments.
Smallest floor height from level 75 is 4.8m
Final floor average on completion will be +4.2m per level

Does mean that will be there an obs deck to 715m (169th floor) ?
I hope that truely this tower will be 1011m high and that will have 216 floors !!!!!

[DUBAI2015]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8268/bdfuture20068gn.jpg

Dec. 20 2006
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2504/dec19lev96cg4.jpg

So much for that :rolleyes:

[vanhenrik]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8268/bdfuture20068gn.jpg

Dec. 20 2006
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2504/dec19lev96cg4.jpg

So much for that :rolleyes:




wonderful update !
i wonder wn its redy end if it`s going to be 808 meters tall
how mutch prechur on the conkrete it wold be by cm2

:banana:

[Fabb]

So much for that :rolleyes:

The construction seems to be late by more than six months.

[AltinD]

On the 98th Floor, as of 25/12/2006 :cheers:


http://i11.tinypic.com/2vn4bkh.jpg

[vanhenrik]

On the 98th Floor, as of 25/12/2006 :cheers:


http://i11.tinypic.com/2vn4bkh.jpg

wonderful update !
i wonder wn its redy end if it`s going to be 808 meters tall
how mutch prechur on the conkrete it wold be by cm2

[Bergenser]

^scary tall now! :D

[Sky Tower]

Nice shot Altin.....I'm sure you took more than one though! ;)
Any close ups of the new podium? :tup:

[AltinD]

^^ Check SSC for an aerial shot (not mine) ... but yes I did took other shots as well. Hopefully I'll post them later today.

[AltinD]

25/12/2006

http://i11.tinypic.com/2cwspz5.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/4bnoxaw.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/4dwag04.jpg

[AltinD]

http://i10.tinypic.com/440fpz8.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/2wnpt9f.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/2u8whhl.jpg

[AltinD]

http://i12.tinypic.com/46y2ssk.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/2pq6d5w.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/2ns9qv4.jpg

[AltinD]

http://i12.tinypic.com/2ef2v4p.jpg


http://i12.tinypic.com/2hoci0x.jpg

[Fury]

Hi all.
Happy holidays.

Some Flickr shots ... all big

'06 12 15

http://runepixels.com/uimages6/06_12_15_4night.jpg

'06 12 23

http://runepixels.com/uimages6/06_12_23_2aerial.jpg

http://runepixels.com/uimages3/06_12_23_3aerial.jpg

http://runepixels.com/uimages8/06_12_23_4aerial.jpg

enjoy :cheers:

[Sky Tower]

:previous: Hey, who'da man! Thanks Altin, Happy New Year to you.

You too Fury, thanks for the updates, happy holidays guys! :cheers:

[MNMike]

So what floor is this thing on now? How tall so far?

[Arriviste]

I was so critical of this project, just because it seemed so un-doable, but now seeing the construction pics, and getting a real sense of the scale of the project, I am overwhelmed. Congrats Dubai, you have converted another disbeliever. Seeing BD rise is an absolute delight.
You folks who are witnessing its construction in person are exceptionally lucky.

[Sky Tower]

:previous: It's at L98 (L99 pouring tomorrow) @357.72m.......now the tallest building in Dubai and currently the 12th tallest in the world.

Dec 26th
http://i14.tinypic.com/2j42b15.jpg

[Lecom]

Thanks to everyone who continues to bring these sick updates.

[BrandonJXN]

While I don't think I'll ever be a big fan of the design of the Burj Dubai in terms of design, I'd be out of my mind to deny that this is a structure of a lifetime. We are in a glorious time for skyscraper construction. The Burj Dubai is the apex of this global boom.

[Lecom]

I remember when it looked tall as hell and it was twice as short. What's best is how far we still have to go...

[vanhenrik]

This is amaizing wonderful prijekt !



this photo is taken 19-JAN-2006

http://k47.pbase.com/o4/93/329493/1/55051823.DubaiJan05057.jpg



and look now how mutch it`s hawe ben changed

Dec 26th

http://i14.tinypic.com/2j42b15.jpg



think about one year from now



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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Lecom]

Yep, so far it's been growing at least at the ESB speed.

[vanhenrik]

Yep, so far it's been growing at least at the ESB speed.


sadley they isn`t going to make it to the 100`th floor by the end of this year

[BrandonJXN]

Are all those smilies nessasary?

[kalmia]

Are all those smilies nessasary?

I think they are for his wacky self.

[westsider]

Wacky but lovable.