A VERY Different Looking Vancouver By 2010 !!!

[Hed Kandi]

Updated thread can now be located here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=138119

[Hed Kandi]

Stay Tuned...

[Coldrsx]

while i agree, this was a weak thread dude.

[hollywoodnorth]

this was a weak thread dude.

:cheers:

[walli]

Anyone have a view of the city with the key buildings added in? Would be nice to see the big picture!

[wisla_krakow]

while i agree, this was a weak thread dude.


Baha, that's harsh.
Help him out then. =)

[Coldrsx]

Baha, that's harsh.
Help him out then. =)


sometimes we should be abrupt, we get better quality from it.

[excel]

whatever he was just trying to show some of the projects. not a big deal.

[Hed Kandi]

I just updated the Thread. Am I missing any buildings?

[cc85]

im thankful that this thread is here

[Glacierfed]

I just updated the Thread. Am I missing any buildings?

Yes quite a few if your cutoff is 50m
Spectrum
http://www.lestwarog.com/spectrum-d/images/buildings.jpg
Firenze
http://www.rozed.com/listimages/final-rendering-th.jpg
Laguna
http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/12/419548.jpg
King Edward Village
http://www.vancourier.com/issues04/114104/photos/top6.jpg


There's also Coopers Lookout, Icon, etc.

[Jarrod]

Where is Spectrum going to be located? It doesn't look like it's going downtown

[natelox]

Am I missing any buildings?

Future
-The Erickson
-Harbour Green 3
-Espana

Spectrum is immediately west of GM Place. That picture is looking South West, towards False Creek.

[Hed Kandi]

Updated with picture of Cielo

[TOBoy]

Thanks. I hadn't seen some of those pictures before. I look forward to watching Vancouver in 2010.

[David]

Where is Spectrum going to be located? It doesn't look like it's going downtown

In the (former) empty lot that separated GM Place from the Beatty escarpment, between the viaducts. The project is well underway with one of the towers around 5 floors last time I checked. There is going to be a Costco at the base

[Jarrod]

OH! Okay, I know it then because of the Costco. Pretty spiffy.

[Hed Kandi]

Just updated again!

Damn there's soo many buildings being built.

[Jarrod]

I think that this is a good thread for the non-locals. I mean, I don't know what's going on in Van, and it's just across Georgia Strait from me. Pretty cool

[Hed Kandi]

I think that this is a good thread for the non-locals. I mean, I don't know what's going on in Van, and it's just across Georgia Strait from me. Pretty cool

Updated may 3 with Urba Building

[Hed Kandi]

Updated with L'hermitage en ville

[WHISTLERINMUSKOKA]

while i agree, this was a weak thread dude.

I thought it was a great thread, it's showing the different and unique buildings that will be rising in Vancouvers skyline, no Pemberton homes crap there.

Good Job.

[Hed Kandi]

Okay, just updated everything with pics

[officedweller]

Thanks!

Still haven't seen any coloured panels on Spectrum yet.

[raggedy13]

There sure is a lot going on in Vancouver. I guess since not a ton of new proposals have been made recently I was feeling like things were slowing down around Vancouver but perhaps everybody's hands are just a little too full at the moment to start much new stuff. Then again I suppose there have still been a healthy number of proposals around so I guess my conclusions were a bit premature. Perhaps I'm just impatient and greedy since I want to see some more impressive proposals the likes of Shangri-la and 1133 W Georgia. Anywho, Vancouver development is still looking healthy as ever.

[westcoast604]

A few more to add:


Capitol 6 Tower (833 Seymour): 42 Storeys (413')

Merrick Towers (535 & 565 Smithe): 31 & 28 Storeys (300' & 270')

The Erickson (Homer Mews): 20 Storeys (200')

Flagship (Pacific Blvd): 24 Storeys (228')

Donovan (Richards St): 18 Storeys (168')

Sapphire (Pender St): 31 Storeys (319')

Mariner (Pacific Blvd): 24 Storeys (226')

Raffles on Robson (Cambie): 23 Storeys (239')

http://www.lestwarog.com/raffles/images/building.jpg


Creekside (Quebec St): 22 Storeys (220')

http://www.lestwarog.com/creekside/images/building.jpg


Coopers Lookout (33 Smithe): 31 Storeys (270')

http://www.cooperslookout.com/images/CpersLkout_final.jpg

[Hed Kandi]

I need pictures for the following towers !!!!




Capitol 6 Tower (833 Seymour): 42 Storeys (413')

Merrick Towers (535 & 565 Smithe): 31 & 28 Storeys (300' & 270')

The Erickson (Homer Mews): 20 Storeys (200')

Flagship (Pacific Blvd): 24 Storeys (228')

Donovan (Richards St): 18 Storeys (168')

Sapphire (Pender St): 31 Storeys (319')

Capitol 1
Height 413 ft
Construction end 2008

Capitol 2
Height 413 ft
Construction end 2008

[westcoast604]

^ try searching.

the print screen button - photoshop - save jpg - upload works too :yes:

BTW you have the capital tower listed 3 times.

[Hed Kandi]

^ try searching.

the print screen button - photoshop - save jpg - upload works too :yes:

BTW you have the capital tower listed 3 times.


Update main page.

[Bert]

Thanks for all the pictures. I didn't realize how many projects I hadn't even seen yet. Many are looking good, but "argh" at Sapphire - it's going to be a blight on Coal Harbour.

[Smooth]

The Erickson:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/134713-93036.jpg

Capitol 6:

http://www.modelshop.bc.ca/porty2/file/X000/X024/X024-8.jpg

[Hed Kandi]

Is capitol 6 under development or is it upcoming ?

[Smooth]

The theatre has been demolished but I don't believe they've received final approval to build yet.

[LeftCoaster]

really? I thought that the project had the full go ahead?

[babster]

it's nice to see some residential towers. i was starting to worry vancouver didn't have enough condominiums being built on land in the CBD.

[djh]

it's nice to see some residential towers. i was starting to worry vancouver didn't have enough condominiums being built on land in the CBD.
:haha: :haha: :haha: LOL!

That's a good one

By the way, if you want a list of ALL the upcoming towers being built in Vancouver up to 2009/2010, follow this well-known and regularly-updated link (http://van-housing.blogspot.com/2006/01/supply-watch-january-2006.html):

http://van-housing.blogspot.com/2006/01/supply-watch-january-2006.html

[officedweller]

The theatre has been demolished but I don't believe they've received final approval to build yet.

Only the alley bridge has been demolished. The main theatre building and the Garnville frontage buildig are still standing.

[hollywoodnorth]

:haha: :haha: :haha: LOL!

That's a good one

By the way, if you want a list of ALL the upcoming towers being built in Vancouver up to 2009/2010, follow this well-known and regularly-updated link (http://van-housing.blogspot.com/2006/01/supply-watch-january-2006.htm):

http://van-housing.blogspot.com/2006/01/supply-watch-january-2006.html


that is is getting out of date FAST.....seems to not have been update for a long time.

[officedweller]

http://van-housing.blogspot.com/

[IKAN104]

Holy crap! That's a lot of development coming up. Van just gets better looking all the time.

[hollywoodnorth]

http://van-housing.blogspot.com/

:)

[bendecido]

Vancouver highrise development overwhelms. It's too much, too fast. I like Calgary's pace a bit more. Amazing city, Vancouver is, but getting just too dense for my tastes.

[LeftCoaster]

too dense? unheard of!

keep the density comming!!!

[Hed Kandi]

too dense? unheard of!

keep the density comming!!!


Exactly!

[renthefinn]

Vancouver highrise development overwhelms. It's too much, too fast. I like Calgary's pace a bit more. Amazing city, Vancouver is, but getting just too dense for my tastes.

Hahaha, sorry the flames lost, nothing to do now eh?

[toon town bandit]

:tup: wow!! some of those are realy stand-out designs, such as the ritz and the sapphire. they will realy bring some new life to van. good luck.

[Hed Kandi]

Does anyone what is the next fully commercial office building for Vancouver. Is 1133 W Georgia an office building or is it residential?


I think Vancouver has now achieved it's goal of "Living First" and now it needs to have buildings that are commercial/office buildings that are being built.

It's a sad state when companies are leaving Vancouver and bringing their head offices to Calgary.

[mr.x]

Does anyone what is the next fully commercial office building for Vancouver. Is 1133 W Georgia an office building or is it residential?


I think Vancouver has now achieved it's goal of "Living First" and now it needs to have buildings that are commercial/office buildings that are being built.

It's a sad state when companies are leaving Vancouver and bringing their head offices to Calgary.


Probably not for a long while, especially if the city doesn't do anything about it. regards to 1133, that's a 5-star hotel/luxury condos.

[Hed Kandi]

Probably not for a long while, especially if the city doesn't do anything about it. regards to 1133, that's a 5-star hotel/luxury condos.


Vancouver needs to have jobs that provide people that opportunity to afford luxury condominiums. What I'm seeing is that Vancouver is just becoming a large "resort" where celebrities and international millionaires can purchase luxury apartments. The city needs jobs for the working and living classes in Vancouver to be able to afford decent housing.

[mr.x]

Vancouver needs to have jobs that provide people that opportunity to afford luxury condominiums. What I'm seeing is that Vancouver is just becoming a large "resort" where celebrities and international millionaires can purchase luxury apartments. The city needs jobs for the working and living classes in Vancouver to be able to afford decent housing.

I completely agree......and this is where Central Broadway and the Downtown Eastside come to play.

[Hed Kandi]

I completely agree......and this is where Central Broadway and the Downtown Eastside come to play.

The Woodwards Project is a good first step, except for the fact the condos sold for $200 000 - $ 800 000, which is not much of an improvement over an area such as Yaletown. For your average Canadian making $40000 per year, how can one afford to puchase a $350 000 condo? It's not feasible.

Yes, Vancouver needs to develop the eastside, but they also need to provide affordable housing for your average Canadian. Perhaps in the price range of $ 175 000 - $250 000.

I think that Vancouver needs to bring more white collar jobs into the city. Encourage growth and development, making Vancouver a large financial center not unlike Hong Kong. People can not afford to live in Vancouver while working service industry jobs.

It's not gonna happen. And that is why, you have the huge disparity between Vancouver's rich and poor, between Van West and Van East. The World's Most Liveable" city is anything but, if you're the average Canadian. You'll be living on skid row with all the heroine addicts of the Downtown Eastside.

[Hed Kandi]

Just added Freesia to list!

[samne]

Out of all those, I like: Shangri-La, 1133 W Georgia, TV towers and The Flatiron.

[Hed Kandi]

I need pictures of Capitol 1 and Capitol 2. Anyone have pics ?

[samne]

+ the "Emerald" is the worst excuse to use green glass.

[<Dave>]

Yes, Vancouver needs to develop the eastside, but they also need to provide affordable housing for your average Canadian. Perhaps in the price range of $ 175 000 - $250 000.

Do you have a suggestion on how the city should go about doing that?

[Blake]

Vancouver needs to have jobs that provide people that opportunity to afford luxury condominiums. What I'm seeing is that Vancouver is just becoming a large "resort" where celebrities and international millionaires can purchase luxury apartments. The city needs jobs for the working and living classes in Vancouver to be able to afford decent housing.

If everyone can afford luxury condos, that doesn't really make them a luxury. ;)

I too see the need for affordable housing DT, however the cost of land just doesn't make it worthwhile for developers to build entry level condos in the core presently.

That may change however, so let the market determine who buys and works downtown.

[Blake]

The Woodwards Project is a good first step, except for the fact the condos sold for $200 000 - $ 800 000, which is not much of an improvement over an area such as Yaletown. For your average Canadian making $40000 per year, how can one afford to puchase a $350 000 condo? It's not feasible.

You're right, they can't afford it. That's what the suburbs are for. We are blessed to live in a city that offers urban living in the suburbs and along transit routes for those unable to afford downtown.

There are plenty of affordable options in East Van, Burnaby, New West and now Surrey's Central City.

As much as I'd love to live Downtown, West Van or the West Side I've realized that it's not affordable for me and I decided to move on. Port Moody looked mighty attractive...

[Hed Kandi]

Do you have a suggestion on how the city should go about doing that?

Well I think that the city should develop low cost housing $175 000 - $250 000 housing in the east end of the city.

As for how they should go about doing it, I don't know - that's probably why I'm not in Larry Beasley's position.

[privatejet]

U can find lots of pics of the Capitol 6 model here
http://www.modelshop.bc.ca/porty2/file/X000/X024/X024-1.htm

[Hed Kandi]

Updated with Capitol 6 picture

[natelox]

You're right, they can't afford it. That's what the suburbs are for.

That statment seems very elitist (Not the rest of your post, just that). But why shouldn't people be able to live downtown? Anyone who wants to live there should have the oppertunity to live there.

[<Dave>]

That statment seems very elitist (Not the rest of your post, just that). But why shouldn't people be able to live downtown? Anyone who wants to live there should have the oppertunity to live there.

Where did he say people couldn't live downtown?

Anyone who wants to live there does have the opportunity to live there, they just have to be able and willing to pay for it.

[Blake]

That statment seems very elitist (Not the rest of your post, just that). But why shouldn't people be able to live downtown? Anyone who wants to live there should have the oppertunity to live there.

You're right. Except everyone does have the opportunity to live there, yet not everyone capitalizes on that opportunity. I know plenty of people on modest incomes who either rent downtown or bought when the market was in recession. Those same people jumped on the opportunity when they saw it. Even so, they understand they will be sacrificing in other areas (size etc.) if they choose the luxury to live in the city centre.

Downtown living is a luxury. If it's a must have for some people, then they should work to better themselves and improve their ability to afford their ideal housing. Canada is not a socialist state, and nobody is entitled to live anywhere just because it's a desirable locale. I'd love to have a waterfront home in West Vancouver, and even though I can't for the time being I won't be waiting for any handouts.

[Hed Kandi]

I feel that downtown living should be for average Canadians making $40 - $50k a year, not just for international millionaires and investors or second homes for celebrities. Downtown Vancouver should be for real people that work in Vancouver.

[<Dave>]

Perhaps instead of talking on and on about what you'd like to see, it would be more productive to give suggestions on how to make it happen.

[Blake]

Perhaps instead of talking on and on about what you'd like to see, it would be more productive to give suggestions on how to make it happen.

Agreed. I know plenty of people that earn average incomes (< $40K per year) and live downtown. It is affordable, they just have to make sacrifices in other areas. aka, no new car, no expensive clothes and no eating out 4 times per week.

[Blake]

You can't be a world class city without attracting international wealth.

[Dorian G.]

The city could do more to control costs in the downtown core, but there are tradeoffs. The Amenities all these new projects come with aren't free—they get tacked on to the price of any new development that is forced to create them. More significantly, though,—there's much more money in luxury units than base ones; Kohler, Grohe, Sub-Zero, granite countertops—if you throw in a handful of high-end fittings and appliances, the profit per unit is much higher (the same as with cars). As long as the developer can sell all the units at the luxury price they will make them luxury(ish). While it's tempting to throw some blame around, and accusations of handouts, having people live close to their work is one of the goals of the LRSP, isn't it? While there are many high-paying office jobs downtown, there are also a huge number of less high-paying sales jobs.

[Hed Kandi]

It'll be interesting to how much international investment the city attracts after 2010!

[twoNeurons]

The problem with Van EAst is that it's all houses. THere's not much condo zoned properties.

[LeftCoaster]

^yet

[JBinCalgary]

those are some impressive projects

[<Dave>]

^yet

:naughty:

[westcoast604]

I feel that downtown living should be for average Canadians making $40 - $50k a year, not just for international millionaires and investors or second homes for celebrities. Downtown Vancouver should be for real people that work in Vancouver.

I live downtown and am not an international millionare, and live quite comfortably. I rent a fairly new 1 bedroom condo (finished in '04) with a great view and do not make obscene amounts of money. It's all about lifestyle choices. I'd rather live with my partner, splitting the rent in a condo downtown, as opposed to having a family & car in the burbs. It actually works out much cheaper when you look at it.

[Vancouverite]

I feel that downtown living should be for average Canadians making $40 - $50k a year, not just for international millionaires and investors or second homes for celebrities. Downtown Vancouver should be for real people that work in Vancouver.

What am I missing here? Vancouver is one of the most desirable cities to live in on this continent, inevitably the most sought after property in such a region is going to create a barrier for some-same goes for shopping on Robson for that matter. To use an analogy I am not exactly sure what having dollar stores on Robson would achieve to the betterment of that street nor do I see the purpose of restricting developers to only construct ‘affordable’ housing in the most desirable areas of one of the greatest cities. Why fight the market, it's like trying to make the wind stop.

Millionaires are real people I think and if this beautiful city attracts them, and they purchase a condo downtown and live here part of the year they are likely to invest in businesses as well thereby creating employment. And as for celebrities, once again it is this incredible city which attracts Hollywood to begin with and this city benefits greatly from that industry. I am from Winnipeg originally, the issues/problems you discuss-Winnipeg could only wish they had as well. Metropolitan Vancouver has more than enough space to create affordable housing where the “real people” can live and enjoy the natural beauty of British Columbia.

[natelox]

Millionaires are real people I think and if this beautiful city attracts them, and they purchase a condo downtown and live here part of the year they are likely to invest in businesses as well thereby creating employment.

Many communities suffer from this problem. Whistler, for example has laws in place to prevent the desertion of their muncipality in the off season. Hence the quarter share and hotel room purchasing. Vancouver obviously has more to offer than Whistler, but the effects of resortification are noticable. Concord Pacific and the West End are fairly lively, but Coal Harbour is pretty dead. When developers are allowed to build towers with less than 50 homes (HG1, HG2, Flatiron), and prices start at $2,000,000 (Fairmont) or more, it doesn't really matter about all those ammenities as no one is going to use them. In terms of employment, its possible but Vancouver's resort allure make it more of a vacation home than a possible buisness venture, esspecially considering the high taxation of office space.

Metropolitan Vancouver has more than enough space to create affordable housing where the “real people” can live and enjoy the natural beauty of British Columbia.

Surrey, Burnaby, Richmond and all the other suburbs try, but don't live up to the quality of Vancouver. Vancouver does a good job of making provisions for low-income residents. West Vancouver is an interesting story though. There are three ways into West Vancouver (Lions Gate, Upper Levels, Road beneath Lions Gate). And at night, police are stationed at atleast one, if not more of these locations. Its like they want to keep those who 'don't belong' out. Is that the kind of community Vancouver should become? "Vancouver is awesome and we care about the less affluent, but they can live else where." West Vancouver has been building some low-income apartments lately (one that I know of that has been underconstruction for two years or so). Everyone is equal, regardless of their finacial situation.

[Hed Kandi]

Updated with new pictures of Fairmont Pacific !

[Hed Kandi]

Updated with Shorehill building

[MichaelChampion]

I think Shorehill was cancelled a while ago.

[Mininari]

Maybe its been resurrected as the 'new AAA office building' under wraps at city hall.

In anycase, we're probably in for another undersized 'stump' of an office tower.

[Hed Kandi]

Updated today (Aug 24). If anyone has better pics than I've got listed or new info - please provide

[Hed Kandi]

fixed broken link's. am i missing anything ?

[caltrane74]

Vancouver will be rockin' with hieght in 2010.

[Hed Kandi]

Okay. whooo :ahhh: . Well I finally finished updating the thread and beefed it with the best renderings/photos I could find of each building!

[Calgarian]

Some nice stuff there :tup:

has Vancouver still got the height restriction? I think a few 700 - 800 foot Commercial towers would give it the #2 spot in the country. (until the Beltline in Calgary has its building boom ;) )

[renthefinn]

^It already it no.2!

[Hed Kandi]

Updated Aug 26. Added 4 buildings!

[Delirium]

great list!

here's a couple more.

cooper's point u/c
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/Imahge1.jpg

stella u/c
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/Imahgdsfdfaa1.jpg

laguna u/c
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/Imahgeasdsa1.jpg

H+H u/c
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/Imahgeaa1.jpg

crossroads u/c
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/cr1.jpg

l'hermitage u/c (your link on page 1 was broken)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/lhermitag2.jpg

[giallo]

Hot damn! Thanks for all your hard work.

[Hed Kandi]

From this view point, are these circle areas restricted view cones ?

If not, anyone know what buildings are being developed here?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/562/falsecreekskylineduskmm7.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falsecreekskylineduskmm7.jpg)

[Hed Kandi]

From this view point, are these circle areas restricted view cones ?

If not, anyone know what buildings are being developed here?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/562/falsecreekskylineduskmm7.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falsecreekskylineduskmm7.jpg)

[SpongeG]

how odd that they would want to protect the views of housing on the nountains

[SpongeG]

what coal harbour is totally missing to make it more lively and give it a better neighbourhood feel is a grocery store

[Canadian Mind]

From this view point, are these circle areas restricted view cones ?

If not, anyone know what buildings are being developed here?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/562/falsecreekskylineduskmm7.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falsecreekskylineduskmm7.jpg)

In my opinion the picture is taken from to far back. if it was down the hill another half mile the housing would dissapear, leaving only mountains. So no, I don't think anything is going up.

[Latrobe]

funny thing

I had a dream last night (about two days after reading this thread) that it was 2010-15ish in Winnipeg and I was driving over the Disraeli Freeway (which happens to have a great view of downtown) and the cityscape of Winnipeg had totally changed with a number of bitchin' 80 story skyscrapers. I was reflecting to a friend about how much drastically Winnipeg had changed (remember this place 8 years ago?).
My subconscious mind has some pretty cool buildings locked away, I must say ;). The dream was no doubt inspired by this thread.

[Canadian Mind]

think any will happen in the near future?

[SpongeG]

haha thats not a dream for us in vancouver

everytime me and my friend walk down granville street we say remember this street in 1997

it has changed so much since than - back than it was dead with a few corner stores and porn shops, now its over crowded with drunk club goers and new little spots that used to be dead little spots are overflowing with people and empty lots where people lined up for soup are now filled in with something

[Hed Kandi]

haha thats not a dream for us in vancouver

everytime me and my friend walk down granville street we say remember this street in 1997

it has changed so much since than - back than it was dead with a few corner stores and porn shops, now its over crowded with drunk club goers and new little spots that used to be dead little spots are overflowing with people and empty lots where people lined up for soup are now filled in with something


One day East Hastings will also become a revitalize and vibrant area much like Granville Street.

If I had to choose one area of Vancouver to invest in, it would be the downtown eastside - the area is full of so much potential !

[officedweller]

The one on the left is definitely a view cone - towards the Lions from the Laurel Landbridge.

You can see all of the actual view cones here. It's tough to tell if you aren't looking from the exact view point of the view cone (which is why they seem so arbitrary).

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/views/listing.htm