KUWAIT | Mubarak Tower | 3,283 FT / 1,001 M | VISION

[Slugbelch]

1001 meter Mubarak Tower proposed:

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It is located in Madinat al Hareer or "City of Silk" in Kuwait.

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[malec]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/F9y/MubarakTower4.jpg

[Slugbelch]

Architects plan kilometre-high skyscraper
17:48 09 December 2005
NewScientist.com news service

Blueprints for a kilometre-tall skyscraper have been drawn up by UK architects, who hope to see the record-breaking structure commissioned in Kuwait.

At 1001 metres, the enormous tower would be almost twice the height of the world's tallest building today, the Taipei 101 in Taiwan, which stands at 509 metres. The new building would also dwarf the Burj Dubai, a building under construction in Dubai that is expected to stand 700-800 metres tall once completed in 2008.

Architecture firm Eric Kuhne and Associates, based in London, UK, has drawn up plans for the skyscraper. Although the designs have yet to be made public, the company is reported to be in talks with the Kuwaiti government about construction.

Representatives told the Architects' Journal that the Kuwaiti government is considering commissioning the building for a city called Madinat al-Hareer, or the "City of Silk". The skyscraper could house 7000 people, but would cost an estimated £84bn to construct and could take 25 years to complete.

Triple-decker elevators
Mohsen Zikri, a skyscraper expert with the UK engineering company Arup, says such an immensely tall building would pose extraordinary challenges for its designers. For example, it could be tricky to include enough elevators (lifts) to move people up and down efficiently.

"As a building gets taller you need more lifts, but that can consume more of the core of the building," Zikri told New Scientist. The solution, he says, could be to use double-decker, or even triple-decker lifts instead of conventional ones.

Another issue, according to Zikri, would be ensuring that the movement caused by wind at the top of the building is controlled. In some skyscrapers this is managed by incorporating a pendulum-like counterweight at the top of the structure, which dampens any lateral motion.

The design of such a tall building would also have to prevent wind whirling around it, as this could produce powerful vortexes on the ground. Finally, Zikri notes that construction work would pose a massive logistical challenge.

[Dylan Leblanc]

Wow. I like those fins.

[STR]

How do I submit a drawing for a building not in the database?

[Slugbelch]

250 floor version assuming every floor is approx. 4m:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/141/mubaraktower1a4qq.jpg
:shrug:

[malec]

The building is now added STR

[STR]

I'll see what I can do model wise. The shape isn't very intuitive.

[SaF9]

ahaha @ the LA skyline surrounding the building
..in fact I think i see san diegos hyatt hotel in there too
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/769/silkcity19rv.png

[Fabb]

Architecture firm Eric Kuhne and Associates, based in London, UK, has drawn up plans for the skyscrape.

Has this firm designed skyscrapers before ?

[polishavenger]

at 84 billion pounds to construct to house only 7000 people, how can this be economically justified?

[dcmcgov]

at 84 billion pounds to construct to house only 7000 people, how can this be economically justified?

As with many urban plans from this region, the details are fuzzy at first, but I've found some facts on this project:

-The tower is just one part of a massive urban planning concept called "Madinat al-Hareer" (City of Silk).
-The name of the 1001 metre tower is actually The Burj al-Kabir Tower (The Tower of 1001 Nights).
-The entire development will eventually house 700,000 people (not 7,000) and create 200,000 new jobs.
-It is expected to cost up to 100 Billion dollars and take 25 years to complete.
-It will be a massive network of 25 seperate residential communities.
-Districts include: "Business City", "Culture City", "Park City", "Leisure City", "Industrial City" and "Media City".
-It will be built directly across the Kuwait Bay from Kuwait City, and will be linked by a 23.5 Kilometer bridge.
-Along with the massive residential, commercial, civic and leisure developments, it is expected to be one of the most popular world travel destinations.
-Plans also call for a massive national park, world class wildlife reserve and an olympic village with stadiums.
-A new international airport and tourism port are also included.

The plans look extremely impressive. Check them out here:

http://www.civicart.com/
-and here-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madinat_al-Hareer

[arnoldous]

Oh my god!!! this is crazy!!!! but is only proposed isn´t it?? And 25 years to be complete, too much don´t you think??

[malec]

84 bn to build the whole city.
25 years to build the whole city. They will build it in parts

[wjfox2004]

Looks a bit like the proposed Bishopsgate Tower in London.

[LSyd]

whoa...damn.

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[jessie_sanchez]

Beautiful design.

[williamphilapa]

shizzle :yes:

[Damien]

Does the Tower of Babel come to mind to anyone else?

[horatio_the_hermit]

it looks a lot like burj dubai.
Cool but not too cool.

[arnoldous]

84 bn to build the whole city.
25 years to build the whole city. They will build it in parts

ok! man! thank u for answer...

[arnoldous]

Does the Tower of Babel come to mind to anyone else?
yes of course!! I was talking with my mom respect of this new building and she told me!! Oh god! I´m thinking in babel tower!!

[althegreat III]

This is crazy, never even herad of this place before.

[Benhamin]

Wow, impressive.

[theguy]

will this really get built?

[Ex-Ithacan]

The tower and the city look and sound intriguing, but between all the new devlopment in UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait itself, where are the 700,000 additional people coming from to populate the city? Just wondering.

[LostInTheZone]

at 84 billion pounds to construct to house only 7000 people, how can this be economically justified?

of course it can't be economically justified. No skyscraper too much over 1000 feet can be, because you have to give up more and more floor area to utilities and elevators. supertalls are for show, and this is ridiculous.

awesome design though, however impractical it might be.

edit- ExIth, these new cities are a last-ditch too-late effort by these countries to diversify their economies in the face of the fact that their oil reserves are declining and they currently have nothing to replace them.

[Slugbelch]

Atkins wins tallest tower in the world
by Sean Cronin and Angela Giuffrida (http://www.itp.net/business/news/details.php?id=20759&category=)
Saturday, 27 May 2006

Atkins has been appointed structural engineer on what is set to become the tallest tower in the world — and at one kilometre tall would eclipse the Burj Dubai.

The 250-storey Mubarak Tower in Kuwait would be almost twice the size of the world’s current tallest building — Taipei 101 in Taiwan.

The record-breaking structure will form the centrepiece
of the US $150 billion (KD43.3 billion) Madinat al Hareer, or ‘City of Silk’.
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The 1,001m-tall tower would form the centrepiece of the Madinat al Hareer
- City of Silk - a proposed US $150 billion development in Northern Kuwait.

Architects at Kuhne and Associates are behind the designs for the tower and the city development, which will be built over 25 years.

“Everything has been unanimously endorsed — the Emir of Kuwait and prime minister have backed the project,” said a spokesperson at Eric Kuhne and Associates.

“We’re just waiting on final approval and for a planning committee to be formally set up to front the project.”

According to Mike Otlet, director and head of structures at Atkins, the tower would form ‘a complete city in the sky’, and would be made up of offices, apartments, a school, a medical centre, and possibly a mosque.

“The tower will be built in three blocks linked together, which will give us more flexibility in terms of the lifts,” he said.

“We’re working with lift specialists on how we can develop and install larger lifts. We’re also exploring the wind force measures that would be needed for a structure of 1,001 metres.”

The City of Silk, described as ‘the new Manhattan’, will cover a 250km2 site in Subiya, Northern Kuwait — transforming
the area into a hub for up to 700,000 people.

The project will create a major new city at the gateway to the famous Silk Route across central Asia, and will be linked to
Kuwait City by a new bridge — the Jabir Al Kabir.

Significant new infrastructure, including a new seaport, railway and an international airport will be built to support the development. Construction is expected to start in September.

“Kuwait is a low energy city, so we will have to look into this and other environmental aspects,” added Otlet.

“We’re confident we’ll get final approval from the Kuwaiti government. It’s a long process because at the moment nobody can buy land or accommodation unless they’re a Kuwaiti resident. So the parliamentary rules on development will need to be changed.”

[malec]

So they're actually serious about building this thing?

[Ktulured55]

So they're actually serious about building this thing?



It seems like they are pretty serious... sounds cool.... guess I'll have to go and visit Kuwait when I'm about 50..... I plan on taking a trip to Dubai in maybe 10 years.. .. so many places to see... so little time.... and not enough money :P That is a nice update though. But yeah, since they have to actually have the country's laws changed just so they can get it approved, it will be a nice slowwwww process... but luckily there are many other cities and buildings growing to keep us entertained while this happens

[Australiasian]

the middle-east! amazing

[Ktulured55]

This one will be a beauty if/when it happens :D

[Slugbelch]

Saturday, 24 June 2006
Building on new-found confidence?
by Rupert Cornford ITP Business (http://www.itp.net/business/features/details.php?id=4573&category=)

Highlights:

A recent report on Kuwait labelled this oil-rich Gulf country as ‘emerging’. With the economy slowly waking up from the jitters of nearly 15 years’ of tension with Iraq following the 1990 invasion, the country is now said to be experiencing rapid growth after the fall of Saddam Hussein’s regime in 2003.

Added to the fact that Kuwait sits on 10% of the world’s proven oil reserves and the government is looking more and more at inward investment, a recipe for an economic explosion certainly looks to be cooking up.

So what will this mean for the construction industry? “I think you are going to see more private money involved in government projects,” says de Lange. “Hopefully things will move a little faster.”

Another big test for Kuwait will be the planned development of a new town in Subiya, northern Kuwait. Named the City of Silk or Madinat Al Hareer, a new town for 500,000 residents has been in the pipeline for decades.

“Planners have dreams and targets, and the thing about Subiya — if and when it’s built — is that it will be the first time that a town will be established that will be totally independent of Kuwait City,” says de Lange. “So psychologically it’s a huge quantum leap.

“All the development in Kuwait so far is physically and emotionally linked to Kuwait City. Even Al Khiran [Pearl City — a residential development close to the Saudi Arabia border] down in the south is at the end of the motorway that drives into the city,” continues de Lange.

“There has been a natural reluctance for this quantum leap to start a completely new city.”

But this reluctance may be showing signs of disappearing. According to Atkins, approval for a 1km-high Burj-beating tower on the development has been endorsed by the powers that be in the Kuwaiti government.

“We’re just waiting on final approval and for a planning committee to be formally set up to front the project,” said Mike Otlet, director and head of structures, Atkins. “We’re confident we’ll get final approval from the Kuwaiti government. It’s a long process because at the moment nobody can buy land or accommodation unless they’re a Kuwaiti resident. So the parliamentary rules on development will need to be changed.”

So on the face of it, with plans to develop world-record breaking towers, the confidence of the Kuwait government in its construction industry seems to moving in the right direction.

But Al-Jaouni is not so sure. “I have very little information, but it may not fly,” he says of the Subiya project. “First of all, why would you want to go 1km tall? For an area that is completely undeveloped, it is premature.

“In terms of master planning, Subiya Town has been on the drawing board since 1983 — it was revised in 1986/87 and now it is coming back to life, but it could take another 20 years to be developed,” he adds.

Al-Jaouni goes on to say that there is an increasing demand for residential housing, and that he could see a town in Subiya being developed to some extent. “There is a demand for housing projects, specifically private housing developments, and we are starting to see satellite housing towns all over the country, especially on the borders for security reasons.”

But whether the City of Silk is born into a 500,000-strong city or a smaller satellite town, the cogs that are pushing this development forward have definitely started to turn again.

So with all the factors in place for the construction industry to up the ante and genuinely compete with its powerful GCC neighbours, Kuwait is showing the signs of wanting to fully emerge from the shade and develop to its maximum potential.

With the growth of hungry private investors, a renewed sense of confidence in the government and a traditionally reliable construction industry, Kuwait is looking to find its feet, benefit from the reconstruction of Iraq and define its own controlled construction explosion that will see it learn from the lessons of the UAE and Qatar, all the while keeping its feet firmly on the ground.

“Kuwait was supposed to be what Dubai is now, but the occupation stopped many projects,” says Akil A Lookman, senior architect and project manager, Gulf Consult.

[Slugbelch]

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[mateolago]

here in Argentina there is a similar proyect. A 1000 mts skyscraper was proposed few months ago.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7567/baf2040nu5.jpg

you can visit de web site to have further information about the proyect to be builded in Buenos Aires, Argentina

www.grupotorcello.com.ar

[ScreamShatter]

Geez! Where are all these great skyscrapers coming from?!!

I'm so excited!

[Krazy]

Fordham Spire anyone?

[ScreamShatter]

Fordham Spire anyone?

Yea, it looks very similar.

[ScreamShatter]

of course it can't be economically justified. No skyscraper too much over 1000 feet can be, because you have to give up more and more floor area to utilities and elevators. supertalls are for show, and this is ridiculous.

awesome design though, however impractical it might be.

edit- ExIth, these new cities are a last-ditch too-late effort by these countries to diversify their economies in the face of the fact that their oil reserves are declining and they currently have nothing to replace them.

In big cities I think it's justified because of the lack of development space....or where the real estate value is so high that it is practial. It's just many of the cities putting up large towers really don't need them. Places like Manhattan, Hong Kong, Tokoyo, etc could use them.

[Jets4Life]

This is insane!!

[Sacto]

Wooaah...

[kevininlb]

of course it can't be economically justified. No skyscraper too much over 1000 feet can be, because you have to give up more and more floor area to utilities and elevators. supertalls are for show, and this is ridiculous.

awesome design though, however impractical it might be.

edit- ExIth, these new cities are a last-ditch too-late effort by these countries to diversify their economies in the face of the fact that their oil reserves are declining and they currently have nothing to replace them.

So...are they not supposed to try to diversify their economies? That makes no sense. And Dubai's doing a pretty good job of diversifying in large part because they've been busy building buildings that aren't economically feasible, but that are attracting many new industries and tourism. Were the Petronis (sp?) Towers economically feasible or necessary? No! But the new buildings sprouting up around them suggest the area is now attracting business and tourism.

[mateolago]

hola chicuelos

[Slugbelch]

here in Argentina there is a similar proyect. A 1000 mts skyscraper was proposed few months ago.

you can visit de web site to have further information about the proyect to be builded in Buenos Aires, Argentina

www.grupotorcello.com.ar^ Thats a great render and my new wallpaper. Thanks.

I also have a thread started on this tower here, hoping to get some more info (lots of pics/plans):

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=105115 :tup:

[Slugbelch]

Another one?

1852m ‘ethic city’ on the anvil; ‘Eighth wonder of the world’ being planned (http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/kuwait/Viewdet.asp?ID=8585&cat=a)
By Valiya S. Sajjad - Arab Times Staff
Aug. 6, 2006

KUWAIT CITY: Kuwait will house the eighth wonder of the modern world if the dream project, ‘ethic city,’ takes shape towering more than twice over the ambitious Burj Dubai, the tallest in the world so far. Designed after a desert-rose by an Italian architect Amero Marchetti, the tower, due to be named Al Jaber Tower, will appear like a flower hanging from the heavens on a giant thorny stalk. With an astronomical 1852 meters, the “ethic city” will dwarf some of the renowned skyscrapers in the world.

Amero Marchetti’s agent in Kuwait, Abdul Aziz Al Buainain, talking about the project said “this is too grand a project to go through the conventional channels of planning and approval. The first approval has to come from the Prime Minister’s Office, after which a suitable location has to be chosen to boast an international monument of this stature and significance. “The project will take three months to be studied, two years for drawings and specifications to be prepared and about three to four years for construction after approval. The study of the project will begin in the next two to three weeks,” Al Buainain added.

“The project is still in the ideation stage, and needs sponsors and construction firms to take it further from there. The core team will just be involved in the design and the overall supervision of the project.” The project has been codenamed ethic city, based on the philosophy that has driven its designer to come up with such a concept. Amero Marchetti sees the project as the beginning of a second renaissance, this time toward enriching mankind with a sense of respect for nature, of finding ways to live in harmony with it at a scale never before imagined.

The architect’s fascination for the Middle East “where the civilization of humanity began about 10,000 years ago” inspired in him the idea “that should go down as a watershed in history.” Today the Arab world is bursting with high-rises, and engineering marvels are large writ everywhere, “however, the structures fail to hold the magic of the East with their excessive Western influences.” Ur, in Babylon, had the first tower in the world about 4000 years ago, “which then was an amazing feat.” The time is right for Middle East to recapture its glory and the enchanting novelty of past, Marchetti added.

The Italian architect compared today’s situation in the Gulf to that of the 14th century Florence, where renaissance took birth. Lorenzo de Madichi , the richest man of antiquity, who lived in Florence dared to dream of renewing civilization, which spurred the renaissance movement. “Today the Arab world is rich both economically and culturally, and perhaps is at the threshold of leading a new revolution in the world.”

Marchetti’s germ thought is a reaction to the current energy crisis in the world; the ethic city will draw from recyclable sources of energy from the nature for its everyday functioning. Sunlight and wind will be exploited to cut down the use of electricity. When hot air at the base of the building is driven up via a progressively narrowing shaft to the top of the tower, the air that comes out will have enough velocity to propel a motor to generate electricity required to operate the lifts, Marchetti explained as an example of tapping ambient energy for everyday use.

The core philosophy of this vertical city is about “feeling the breath of the universe and understanding the laws of matter to be able to harness their colossal energies in a manner that even our progenies can enjoy them.”
“It is an ethical challenge, whether we want to reverse the trend of mankind irremediably damaging the natural resources of the earth and making it less livable with every passing day, or if we want to simply add to the atrophy and expedite the end?”

Some builders show an obsession for beauty, even at the cost of logical utility, contends Marchetti. In his point of view beauty has to evolve from the entity’s harmonic utility in the continuum of natural laws, like trees. Plants and sea breeze will also be endemic to this dream city. Marchetti has already been challenged by pessimistic doubters about the feasibility of such a grand project. To them he tells the parable of a sailor who sought to reach his destination by traveling in a direction opposite to the conventional route: his name was Christopher Columbus.

[q8_shaggy_17]

somebody plz tell me, is the city of silk approved yet from the government of q8?? and when r they gonna start the construction??

[Canadian Mind]

Anyone else getting rather irritated about this? sure its cool that there is going to be a huge tower, but whats the point? a my penis is beigger than yours competition? I'm getting right tired of these middle east oil monkeys. Feed and educate your people before building massive monuments with federal cash. Not like they will last long, I'm sure Iran will gladly blow them up.

[Thskyscraper]

Well the thing is that there aren't that many people to feed in these countries. I mean think about it, look at the populations of these places. THey're not that large.

[Canadian Mind]

actually, what is the population of kuwait?

[q8_shaggy_17]

the population in q8 is about a million, but canadian mind let me tell u somethin countries of the third world like the gulf countries and most of the arab countries really need those kinds of projects, and they really need an open market, skyscrapers and other stuff, y? cuz the populoation is growing fast, there has been many wars in the region so they have 2 rebuild, plus they need 2 stop depending on oil, and that's what they're trying 2 do, by making projects such as the ones being made right now, and those projects really help citizens 2 find jobs, and make a better education, by building universities schools etc, same thing goes 4 the other stuff

u think that making skyscrapers like this has no reason, well it does have a reason:

reduce the amount of unemployment, help the private sector take a better and more important role in the economy instead of the government controlling the hole economy, projects like these always go 4 the best of the country and it's ppl, it helps them find jobs, have a better education, reduce the amount of corruption in the country's economy, and beleive me projects made in the gulf countries really help them 2 boost their economies cuz they know that oil is not gonna last 4 long, plus the location of the gulf country is like in the middle of the world map, europe is next 2 them africa is next 2 them and asia is next 2 them, this is all good 4 trade, the gulf countries have a long way 2 go 2 be a major economic powers in the region and maybe in the world, but atleast they got a good start

[malec]

^^ One thing you're forgetting though is that this is a 250-storey tower. I think what people are asking is why build one huge tower like this when you could build 10 50-storey towers, you'd get the same floors space at a cheaper price. Also the maintenance costs would be huge. I know it's possible to build such a tower and maybe even one taller but with such huge towers there are many things that need to be sorted. For example, pumping water to such a height will require some huge pressure. The movement of people within, how will the elevator system work, also psychological problems about living in such a tower, people generally tend to feel isolated not being able to see the streetlife on the ground, what facilities would be provided so that this doesn't happen?

What I'm trying to say is that when you build such a tower there are a variety of problems you need to sort out and can make building it a lot more expensive wheras building several smaller buildings would eliminate most of these problems, make it cheaper to build and also provide the same floorspace.

[q8_shaggy_17]

well that my friend u can ask the archetect of the tower about

oh and by the way ppl, can anyone give me a hand with the skyscrapercity forum, i did all the steps and went 2 the etc file and did what i had 2 do but no use, any help ppl plz

[malec]

^^ You should be able to get in normally now.

[q8_shaggy_17]

well, i'm not

first i went 2 C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc
and then u go 2 hosts and use the notepad programe 4 it, and add the following 2 the hosts file:

# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
66.249.139.178 www.skyscrapercity.com
and save it, then u should use it normally, but 2 me it still doesn't work, i tried it a couple of times and still no use

[Canadian Mind]

the population in q8 is about a million, but canadian mind let me tell u somethin countries of the third world like the gulf countries and most of the arab countries really need those kinds of projects, and they really need an open market, skyscrapers and other stuff, y? cuz the populoation is growing fast, there has been many wars in the region so they have 2 rebuild, plus they need 2 stop depending on oil, and that's what they're trying 2 do, by making projects such as the ones being made right now, and those projects really help citizens 2 find jobs, and make a better education, by building universities schools etc, same thing goes 4 the other stuff

u think that making skyscrapers like this has no reason, well it does have a reason:

reduce the amount of unemployment, help the private sector take a better and more important role in the economy instead of the government controlling the hole economy, projects like these always go 4 the best of the country and it's ppl, it helps them find jobs, have a better education, reduce the amount of corruption in the country's economy, and beleive me projects made in the gulf countries really help them 2 boost their economies cuz they know that oil is not gonna last 4 long, plus the location of the gulf country is like in the middle of the world map, europe is next 2 them africa is next 2 them and asia is next 2 them, this is all good 4 trade, the gulf countries have a long way 2 go 2 be a major economic powers in the region and maybe in the world, but atleast they got a good start

sure it helps within the next 10-15 years. but you can't keep building tall buildings forever with no one to pay for them when the oil runs out. Buildings are a short term solution, not a long one. BTW - where does kuwait expect to get 700 000 more people by 2025 with only a million to start?

[q8_shaggy_17]

it's not only buildings canadian mind, it's also making a better education, this will all help build up the economy even when the oil finishes, and when u tell me about not having enough money in the future 4 projects such as city of silk when the oil is finished, well we have a very strong private sector, and beleive it or not they have enough money 2 build these projects and help the country grow, i mean look @ singaphore 4 example how they achieved their goal, it's just that in kuwait there is alot of corruption and that's y the private sector is still not putting and investing it's money in q8 cuz we have corruption, i think that we can have a strong economy even without oil, i mean look @ the history of my country b4 the oil, how they used 2 do alot of trad with europe asia africa, and inidia, canadian mind beleive me u have 2 study the think ur talking about and know about it b4 u dudge, cuz q8 has a very good history with investment and trade b4 the oil

what i'm trying 2 say is that my country can live without oil, it's just that we need the government 2 stop controlling the market so much, and let the private sector play a better role in the economy, and that's what's happening right now

[Canadian Mind]

how does building the city of silk help education? hundreds of millions of dollars on a building or hundreds of millions on education. You have the potential to have the best education system in the world right now, but instead you want to build the building first and use the revienews from that to finace education. Regardless of whether Kuwait was rich before the oil or not, it doesn't mean it will again by building massive projects now while the oil is here. If kuwait want to be rich after oil, its going to need projects like this by then. right now it needs to grow at a slow and steady pace, so the country doesn't fill up with uneducated citizens. then when the il runs out, build things like this city of silk, the massive economic boost will kickstart the private sector when you will be needing most. if you build now, that boom you get from the private sectors revived intrest will have died down. there is currently nothing sustainable about the city of silk. Just a bunch of empty relics.

[q8_shaggy_17]

canadian mind, i agree with u about the education, but it needs time, cuz we have alot of corruption in the ministries(the public sector), but kuwait is working on improving education beleive me, q8 is studying the mistakes of the other countries like qatar, uae, ksa, bahrain. it's just wrong 2 spend all ur surplus on building projects, but it's not bad 2 make projects 4 new homes, schools, and buzness cities cuz the population is rising and the amount of unemployed ppl is rising, ppl graduated from universities around the world, and they come 2 their country staying @ home trying 2 find a job 4 atleast a year or two, so canadian with this problem i think we really need cities like the silk city, and like u said improving the educatoin also plays a big role,

[poosarla699]

I Think this tower's initial hight was planned for 1892 mts. is it the same tower? But this tower looks Great!

[q8_shaggy_17]

no it wans't planned 2 be 1892 mts initially, the 1892 mts tower is called jaber tower designed by some archetecht i never heard of and this is the pic of it
http://www.alqabas.com.kw/Final/NewspaperWebsite/NewspaperBackOffice/ArticlesPictures/6-8-2006//191494_150001.jpg

but the 1001 mts tower is something different, better and more realistic, it's called mubarak al kaber tower it will be located in silk city

http://image015.mylivepage.com/chunk15/119604/79/city2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/F9y/MubarakTower4.jpg

[Ex-Ithacan]

^wow

[smussuw]

the main problem within Kuwait is that it doesnt have a vision.

[Skoulikimou]

the main problem within Kuwait is that it doesnt have a vision.
to be more precise is the excessive routine and government bureaucracy which slowing down all these projects :dead:

[poosarla699]

Can Any One Provide Me Information About Kuwait Business Town With Pictures

[poosarla699]

no it wans't planned 2 be 1892 mts initially, the 1892 mts tower is called jaber tower designed by some archetecht i never heard of and this is the pic of it
http://www.alqabas.com.kw/Final/NewspaperWebsite/NewspaperBackOffice/ArticlesPictures/6-8-2006//191494_150001.jpg

but the 1001 mts tower is something different, better and more realistic, it's called mubarak al kaber tower it will be located in silk city

http://image015.mylivepage.com/chunk15/119604/79/city2.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/F9y/MubarakTower4.jpgTHANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION

[poosarla699]

Please Any One Can Provide Bubiyan Island Map

[Chitabaca]

It sounds like the first conteinder of the Downtown master plan in dubai! Isn it?

[Skoulikimou]

Please Any One Can Provide Bubiyan Island Map

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/ahmedjam/boubyanPort0.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/ahmedjam/boubyanPort1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/ahmedjam/boubyanPort2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/ahmedjam/boubyanPort3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/ahmedjam/boubyanPort4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/ahmedjam/boubyanPort5.jpg

images originally posted by ahmedjam form SSC

[wiki]

i think is pretty similar to burj dubai but taller

[excel]

this is pretty ridiculous stuff.

[q8_shaggy_17]

what is so rediculous excel???

[Bergenser]

I have a feeling that this tower is not gonna be buildt, but
it's always hope. :frog:

[q8_shaggy_17]

oh beleive me it will be built, it's part of a project called silk city project, and right now the whole process is going through the approvement proceedures, and secondly it's beeing backed up by the amir shekh sabah, so yes the tower and the city r gonna be built, they r already going through the approvement procedures in the ministries

[q8_shaggy_17]

slugbelch, i think u better change that proposal 2 appoved, cuz it just got it's final approval

[Ktulured55]

q8, is it really approved? IF so, where did you get the info? and when do they eventually plan to start the city of Silk project? (even if not the main building but overall start the City of Silk project) when?

this is good news though!! :)

[q8_shaggy_17]

ktulured55, the project has got it's final approval from all the minitries and the cabinet(government), but they are just doing some more studies of how 2 begin with building the project, i think that they may start construction in late or mid 2007

this is an article in al qabas newspaper the latest news about the project

On an area of 260 square kilometers, the sea side simulates a rivera
the municipal approved components of the draft City of Silk

The municipal approved components of the final draft of the Silk City, which will be held in the northern region of the country on an area of 260 square kilometers.He said the Director General of the municipality Engineer Mohamed P in the final report, which was addressed to the President of the municipal council for inclusion on its agenda that includes the proposed land uses different concentrations density and cities for business and culture, the environment, tourism, industry, education, exhibitions and sports,in addition to the Mubarak alKabeer Tower.

He added that on the completion of studies and the adoption of the scheme of the city and from the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of State for Cabinet Affairs and annex each project studies,in order to complete the required studies,To ensure complementarity of the project with the state-owned projects approved in the structural plan, it has been developed as an initial blueprint for the distribution of land uses proposed.Al Nasaar stated that this idea was based on the initial planning studies that include demographic indicators, economic and environmental studies and construction engineering to meet the challenges of the development of the city in the light of the implementation of the objectives of the structural plan,the affirmation of the role of the State of Kuwait as a financial and commercial regional and international action on multiple and diversifying sources of national income by focusing on the non-oil sectors,such as industrial, financial and real estate.

AlNasaar said that the technical staff in the municipal audit plans and the initial reports of the city of silk and shows for the following components :

- Resort and protected desert :campus and national land area greater than 200 hectares and includes one of the largest protected areas and research centers to study in all parts of the Arabian Gulf.This spa environmental tourism will be opened for visits, study and exploration.

- Sheikh Jaber Al-Ahmad Bridge :this new bridge will connect the city of Silk , Kuwait distance of some 17 minutes.In the middle of the road the bridge will be linked with two manmade islands which contains modern facilities.

- Silk Road-free zone :area businesses designed as a free zone for trade, investment and business development,located near the new international airport will be linked to a railway line and a network of roads and extending to the airline expanded Central Asia.

- Business City: This will be the area dedicated to the work of finance, trade and international administration,where the city would provide better facilities for regional businesses to open major centers in Kuwait,The central location will be at the center of the Gulf and the gate to Central Asia.

- Forums and exhibitions :in keeping with the heritage of the major global exhibitions,the forums will host exhibitions for the city of Silk higher and better investors, customers and businessmen in the world of ideas and creativity,They will address in this place and the greatest achievements in the world of technology, products, services and global research.

- Sports and academic City :this city will be established on the east side of the city where the Silk will include entertainment centers,The Sport, Sports and resorts,The site would include academies for sports medicine and physical therapy centers.

- Cultural City :at the heart of the peninsula overlooking the Gulf will be the establishment of a new diplomacy, culture and the academic community to become a global center of excellence containing museums of arts performance and visual effects, handicrafts and Islamic.

- Tourist centers :the development will be entertainment, entertainment facilities and shopping centers in the city of four,in addition to the eastern shore, which will include water and recreational activities,this will be the development of the eastern shore of a new Arab Rivera.

- Hotels and resorts :in addition to hotels throughout the city Silk centers will be developed eastern shore,as for hotels and resorts world,that will be an attraction for visitors and residents.This will not only development of the buildings,but will design gardens and Marina,in addition to the means of entertainment and service will make it distinctive silk center of the city's leadership.

- The Environmental City:as a science and environmental research center will become the fourth city in the heart of the new environmental protected,The national park,where will this center to receive scientists and researchers from all over the world,and who will this spot in the reclamation area of environmental living creatures.

- Media City :Further the role of the Kuwaiti creative television production and playwright will be the establishment of this city, backed by video and visual communications and the Internet to expand all the roads media.That the city will also different academies to refine talent that will help support the media's path in Kuwait.

- Film City :the city will become films specially designed for the establishment of a new film production industry in the Arab world, one of the best centers in the world would be to develop all aspects of film production and cinema industry and the support services that will be available to all the Arab countries in addition to foreign film-makers who want to exploit the advantages of this city's services.

- Industrial city :the city will be developed light industries on the western side of the where the city of Silk will be linked to a railway line and a network of roads and extending to the airline expanded Central Asia.

- Education City : this city will be set up in collaboration with international educational institutions, global expansion of the educational system in the State of Kuwait, which will include the different stages of education.

- Health City : this city wil have services unprecedented in the areas of modern health care, rehabilitation and nutrition, where will this city cooperation and contact health centers in the development of the world's advanced science research and the pharmaceutical industry.And provide services not only for the population of the State of Kuwait, but also to other countries.

- Parks : advantage was taken of the heritage and magnificence of gardens in the history of Islamic architecture in the design of parks in the city of silk. gardens containing lakes, bridges and channels garden at the National Shrine and the new environmental and other marine facilities and resorts composed 'Zmerdia' biggest rival of green belts in the world and will be more comprehensive and broader system of parks in the Arab countries.

- Silk City communities :Each community out of 28 communities housing and the way of life of the Silk City special and distinctive pattern makes life in these communities unique.The sports and entertainment centers and rest, mosques and the media and information and education will be part of the services that will be accessible to all the people of the City of Silk.

- Housing :residential areas vistas were designed innovatively linked with the religious centers, health, educational and service with a unique gardens and means of entertainment for all family members.Housing in the city of Silk's experience does not compare to any other.

- Mubarak al Kabeer Tower :An architecture masterpiece at over 200 floors. which makes it one of the highest towers in the world.it has been designed using the latest technologies architectural contains seven segments of housing and business,located in the middle of the business city.

The population has been revealed by Al Nasaar estimates the number of people expected the city about 700 thousand people and appreciation of different uses,as well as the land area for each use in accordance with a consulting office,as well as the proposal to develop the islands industrialized Gulf of Kuwait (Kuwait Bay) used as a springboard development sites and the fulcrum for the Sheikh Jaber Bridge. .He said that the use of population densities and higher housing densities used in the State of Kuwait, and as a corollary to the type of development proposed for the city and its political and economic proposal.

The diversification of sources of income and Al Nasaar explained that the review of the structural outline of the State of the third year,in 2005, activating the role of Kuwait resulting from the regional strategic location, and creating an investment climate based on the diversity of the sources of national income,and not to rely solely on oil,The broadening of the economic base of the state, by identifying the basic role of the state as a financial trading regional, and international trade, transit trade,and work on the legislation and mechanisms to ensure the effective participation of the private sector in the process of economic development and urbanization of the State.

He said that the expectations of the structural plan, the population in 2030 to about 5.3 million people,the urban area to accommodate about 2.8 million people and 2.5 million people in the new urban communities.Al Nasaar explained that one of the most important recommendations of a national plan for the urban scheme of structural recommendation urban development outside the urban area direction of the Northern Territory,the southern region, the western region.The work axes new urban development is the lifeline of nutritious cities and urban agglomerations future is in the northern axis' southern and western axis' east.The development of the northern region, said that the development is the basis of the proposed Northern future development in the northern region of the State of Kuwait. where activating the northern border of the United comprehensive development,by making use of all natural resources and strategic location available,

The expectations of the structural plan that will be projected population of this region of about 1 million people distributed as follows :-

- Subiya City : 550-600 thousand people.
- Umm Qasr : 50 thousand people.
- North Subiya : 300-350 thousand people
He explained that the economic fundamentals of the Northern Territory are as follows-land uses proposed scheme of structural-General of the Bubiyan Island, including the tourism and recreational activities.

- proposed international port Bubiyan Island and the Free Zone-related fields in the north and the activities associated with it.
- bridge of Sheikh Jaber Al-Ahmad , proposed airport to serve the northern region
-major road projects under design or implementation-industrial zone and the free zone in Abdali and agricultural activities in Abdali.

A Nasaar noted that the structural plan recommended expediting the development and implementation of the boys (northern region) as an essential and central to the development and implementation of a State of Kuwait and face projected requirements for housing and public services and facilities required to serve the expected increase in the number of population,the affirmation of the role of the State of Kuwait regionally and internationally.

He said he would review the structural designs prior to the Subiya City found to be located in the northern part of the country at Subiaya peninsula and bordered on the east by Khor Al Subiya and ending south-eastern slopes of the mountains of perjury to Subiya in the south-west of the site,The area of the new town, about 250 square kilometers,The city boys away from Kuwait City about 90 kilometers from the mainland and 25 kilometers from the sea and lies about 55 kilometers west of Al Jahra. He added that the proposal to establish a Subiya city for the first time during the first structural plan in 1971.

Since then, several studies have been done to establish the city started preparing the structural plan for the natural city in 1978 (through the initial review of the scheme of structural) propose economic and social structure similar to the urban areas of the state and confirmed by the second audit of the structural scheme of the States in 1983 and since then surpassedserious efforts to change the planning and design of the city as follows :
- During 1983 the focus was on survey-based economic accomplishments of the city and the new routes have been identified on the basis of population size expected.
- 1984 which focused on the development of the structural plan and the city's infrastructure schemes.
- In 1985 the focus was on an audit of employment opportunities accomplishments included the first stage with a more precise estimates of the posts to achieve self-sufficiency of the city.
- During the period from 1985 until 1989 was the focus of this period to adjust structural plan for the city boys to 1984, to describe a scheme of the city and the proposed bridge boys and the work also included proposals to develop the city's waterfront,At this stage has been prepared four alternatives planning to develop the city.The selection of Alternative IV to be a structural plan amended directive of the city.
- 2004 was commissioned the consulting local 'Gulf advisers' cooperation with the consulting firm Global (HOK missiles) and (Parson) for the project in accordance with the following :the distribution of land use-study and planning standards and building systems appropriate for the development and the nature of the city-examine the impact of the bridge boys on the implementation and development of the city-employment-anticipated review and update policies of social and economic development - the road network-transport-infrastructure services-the Walt IMPLEMENTATION.


Components of Al Subiya Area:

He explained that he had been completed stages of the study and is currently preparing the final reports,The study concluded the following results :the area of the city approved 260 square kilometers but he and planning purposes and in accordance with the existing factors affecting the environmental aspects and results of the survey of current land uses and existing commitments;the amendment has been an area of the Subiya city to reach approximately 280 square kilometers.
According to the analytical studies of population, employment and economic estimates for the city boys were identified population city boys about 382 thousand people and the projected employment in accordance with the expectations of the population and economic base centered on industrial uses about 207 thousand jobs.

Land uses :not to exploit plate sediment mud,to maintain the archaeological sites.to maintain the existing facilities and services.He said that the number of housing units for accommodation sector of about 36 thousand housing units, including 28 thousand housing units, of the Foundation for Housing Welfare.The number of housing units investment of about 24 thousand housing units,The projected employment of about 207 thousand, comprised of 10 thousand jobs expected for Bubiyan Island.


Review of the technical management

explained that the study's proposal to develop the city of Silk in the city boys is as follows :
- had been offered the idea of developing the city through the Silk strategies and policies of the state and declared the development and modernization of the recommendations of the structural plan of the State for the third year,in 2005, which emphasized the role played by Kuwait resulting from the regional strategic location,and creating an investment climate based on the diversity of the sources of national income,and not to rely solely on oil,
The broadening of the economic base of the state,by identifying the basic role of the state as a financial trading regional, and international trade, transit trade,and work on the legislation and mechanisms to ensure the effective participation of the private sector in the process of economic development and urbanization of the state,the municipal providing sites for new housing communities,The land allocated for the provision of residential care in each of Arivjan,the city of perjury, the city Jaber, Saad City,in addition to amending the urban area of the proposed assembly in the enclaves Metla'a site No. 1 and 2 previously to be about 65 square kilometers.

Due to the impossibility of developing Kuwait City to become a commercial and financial center of the State as a result of the high financial cost to make the necessary adjustments to the distribution of land uses in accordance with the proposed role of the city,and the consequent amendments to the network of roads, utilities and services,where ownership is called a large number of real estatein addition to the importance of this amendment of the burden on the urban area their environment destruction,
Therefore, the technical apparatus in the municipality need to create the second city of the financial and commercial center of the state,in addition to the capital, Kuwait City, administrative, financial, governance and the status of work on maximizing the role of the city to highlight,and its role, in line with most other States.

- Could be planning and city development through the new local standards updated,according to the city's status and role and the use of global expertise with similar emphasis on the need to develop and modernize the laws and policies in line with the role of the proposed city.

- The draft Silk City project unique in terms of size and vision of the future to create sustainable Amrani gathering of approximately 700 thousand people. Silk City is a proposal combining physical development,in the boys,The area of the project site approximately 250 square kilometers.

It is expected that the volume of investment in the city of silk around 25 billion dinars.and the creation of new job opportunities for around 430 thousand new jobs.

- Was a scheme first as an initial distribution of land uses proposed based on the initial planning studies that include Mushrat demographic, economic and environmental studies and initial construction engineering studies to meet the challenges of the development of the city in the light of the implementation of the objectives of the structural plan and the role of the State of Kuwait Customsg financial and commercial regional and international action on multiple and diversifying sources of national income by focusing on non-oil sectors such as industrial,financial, real estate, commercial exchange.

- Was to estimate the number of people expected the city about 700 thousand people and assess the various land uses, area, according to the experience of the Consultative Group and the application of the English standards, as well as the proposal to develop the islands industrialized Gulf of Kuwait used as a springboard development sites and the fulcrum for the bridge of Sheikh Jaber.

- Use population densities and higher housing densities used the State of Kuwait as a result of the type of natural development proposed for the city and its political and economic proposal.
- All land uses infrastructure necessary to serve the population in addition to the new uses for the city's role in providing specialized types of land uses within cities specialist budget.
- Increasing the areas both commercial and non-application of the criteria for planning the proposed scheme of structural and 2.6 square meters per capita urban agglomerations outside the urban area, which would affect the balance between land uses and the number of people the state whole.
- Failure to take into account the parameters of natural sites and the industry that might hamper the development of the city when the idea planning for the development of the city in terms of archaeological sites.the mudflats,the power plant and water desalination in the top of Alzour.Etc..
- The proposal to develop the islands industrialized Kuwait and the Gulf of excise several Silk City without a basic environmental studies for the consolidation of this proposal.


Global city and a financial center


AlNasaar said that review of the initial reports submitted for the development of the Silk City,The audit planned structural third of the state and the criteria used when planning, as well as review previous structural schemes for the city boys and after reviewing the technical municipal each of the foregoing we agree to :

- approval in principle to develop the Silk City to be a cosmopolitan city and a financial and trade internationally and regionally.
- Approval in principle to the proposed land uses, which includes the city (population gatherings different densities of the city - the city-tourist-cultural city-city environmental-industrial city - the city-city education-health forums and exhibitions-city sports-Mubarak AlKabeer Tower)to identify these uses are finally at the end of all the studies and detailed planning is necessary approvals from the competent authorities.

AlNasaar stipulated that follows :

The preparation of environmental studies necessary for the work of the industrialized islands in the Kuwait Gulf (Kuwait Bay) and waterways Silk City.
- Preparation of all the studies required for the planning scheme structural final of the City of Silk is as follows :

A-studies urban planning (a city outline structural third of the state and policies set by the Urban).
B-environmental studies (the validity of environmentally-site study the environmental impact of the project).
C-geotechnical studies (lifting spatial topography --examination of the soil).
D-Demographic Studies (population, employment and employment opportunities).
E-Economic Studies (funding-policy implementation-income and spending captors).
F-final land use (area-ratio-standards development. Etc.).- Taking into account both the determinants of development determinants of natural or existing site parameters, which may impede the implementation of the proposed scheme of the city (archaeological sites,areas of mud sediment.an existing power lines and high-voltage network and existing lines of the existing oil and gas lines and water systems. list).

- Taking the necessary approvals for all the ministries concerned, especially the ministries of services, the Ministry of Energy and the Ministry of Works and the Environment Public Authority.

- That the execution will put the project in accordance with the state plan and the decision of the Council of Ministers.

[ZZ-II]

when they start to build the Silk city i think the Tower is one of the first projects!

[q8_shaggy_17]

ya, i think so 2 :)

[q8_shaggy_17]

hey mr Slugbelch, i thing u should change the project 2 approved cuz it is approved already, u should change it 2 approved

[Slugbelch]

^q8, I think the best thing to do is to open one in the Highrise Proposals section:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=85

Then if the SSP gods will allow, they can move it to approved. Then we in the M.E. section can do the same to our thread ;)

I can't wait until pics from the area for activity on this massive project.

-edit- I mean "Mega" Project ;)

[q8_shaggy_17]

ya me 2

[mightygoose]

if this is approved why is it still a proposal...

[architect1]

wow what a crazy building. They hight is still unbelievable. That will be one crazy project hope to see the updates and other info soon.

[Bergenser]

When will they start builing this then?

[q8_shaggy_17]

i think they will start construction in late 2007 or beginning of 2008

oh and mightygoose, the project is 100% approved, but the guys who made the thread still have it on proposal i don't know y

[Bergenser]

That's great :)

[Complex01]

They are really going to build this. Wow, that is something else, i dont know what to say...

:omg:

[Calrissian]

Divine.

So, not only might will we just be seeing the Burj Dubai completed around 2008/9, the Mubarak will begin, along with the Al Burj in progress.

What a truly astounding few years it is for Skyscraper fans.
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[hamo]

:upload_71700:

Great Fantastic !!

:upload_71700:

[America 117]

This is just a vision.:no:
Too bad.:(........

[America 117]

i think they will start construction in late 2007 or beginning of 2008



......umm :shuffle:
Its kinda around the end of 2008 right now.

[JDRCRASH]

Hamo, your post and the Calrissian's were over a year apart; I say :deadthread:, because last I heard, this project won't start until 2010.

[Calrissian]

Well, a couple years delay for this project is nothing. Its take years to get almost any project approved in 'the west', so 2010 is no far off at all.

There is plenty of money sloshing in Kuwait, so there is no reason why they won't have their own super-super tall within 5-7 years.

[America 117]

Just wait!
im going to laugh so hard when its 2010 and this tower never even becomes a real proposal!!!:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Austin55]

where not going to laugh if it gets built or not, were already all laughing at your antics. Why do you think its not gonna get built? this is an extreme case,yes,but it is doable,money wise,engineer wise and the aspects are there.

Something is gonna get built eventually. It may only be 2,000 feet,but wow,common this place is a little Dubia.

[America 117]

Come on.
Im just being realistic.
there is just no way that they could build this maybe dubia could but kuwait.
Please.:rolleyes:

This thread is dead anyway so who cares.

[pioli12]

I'm pretty sure the prime minister of Kuwait okayed this tower. I think it has gone farther than a proposal, it's going to be built.

[JDRCRASH]

Something is gonna get built eventually. It may only be 2,000 feet,but wow,common this place is a little Dubia.

Only 2,000 feet?

[M II A II R II K]

I believe the 2007-2008 timeline is referring to the overall project of Silk City, the entire city, and that's what was approved. The tower itself is one part of that project but it doesn't appear to be starting yet.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

simly georgeoes...