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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 25, 2009, 10:39 AM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 25, 2009, 10:41 AM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 25, 2009, 10:55 AM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 25, 2009, 11:06 AM

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Sulley

Aug 25, 2009, 7:30 PM

Gloria says: Amazing shots!

NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 25, 2009, 9:03 PM

Gloria says: Amazing shots!

Thanks, Gloria!:)

Complex01

Aug 26, 2009, 12:46 AM

Ah very nice. Very nice.

:cool:

bobdreamz

Aug 26, 2009, 8:27 AM

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I see MET 2 has finally topped off & the blue/ green glass facade looks great. Love the early morning shots of Biscayne bay & the skyline when the bay is so calm, it almost looks like a mirror. Nice pics NewAtlantis.

NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 27, 2009, 11:20 AM

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Complex01

Aug 27, 2009, 6:46 PM

Met 2 really stand out. I just wish Met 3 would be its original height. That would be so kewl. Anyhow still Miami looks awesome with all its new towers...

:tup:

bobdreamz

Aug 28, 2009, 2:52 AM

Love this shot from Bicentennial Park!

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and this pic shows how desperately we need One Bayfront Plaza to be built to fill in the gap between the Wachovia tower & One Biscayne tower

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as usual fantastic pics New Atlantis!

robhut

Aug 28, 2009, 4:05 AM

Beautiful pics, keep them coming!!!

NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 28, 2009, 4:51 PM

Beautiful pics, keep them coming!!!

Thanks! When the cranes come down from Met2 and 1450 Brickell will be the time to get more pics. Then, hopefully, we will see a market rebound by that time in order for me to photograph more skyscrapers.

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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 28, 2009, 5:01 PM

Love this shot from Bicentennial Park!

Thanks! These were taken from different points on the MacArthur Causeway. I zoomed in on Bicentennial Park.

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and this pic shows how desperately we need One Bayfront Plaza to be built to fill in the gap between the Wachovia tower & One Biscayne tower

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as usual fantastic pics New Atlantis!

NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 29, 2009, 9:42 PM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 31, 2009, 8:06 PM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Aug 31, 2009, 8:07 PM

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Thymant

Sep 3, 2009, 5:55 AM

Those photos are amazing!

skyscraperfan23

Sep 6, 2009, 3:13 AM

The Most glamourest city of all time.

pablosan

Sep 6, 2009, 3:48 AM

Amazing developments.

bobdreamz

Sep 9, 2009, 4:03 AM

very nice pics New Atlantis especially of the CBD with the older buildings and pedestrian traffic.

BrandonJXN

Sep 10, 2009, 11:21 PM

NewAtlantisMiami

Sep 13, 2009, 3:21 PM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Sep 21, 2009, 1:51 AM

One thing I will say about Miami is that they have some of the coolest names for their skyscrapers. They have such a...I don't know...'Miami' feel to them. Some of my favorites.

Via
Urbanea
Capri
Prisma
Nordica
Moriah
Diursa
Unika
Energe
Lumerie

Although I can also live without the Whatever on the Ocean and Whatever on Brickell.

Some of my favorites names for skyscrapers in Miami.

Quantum
Marina Blue
Marquis
Infinity
Mint
Ivy
Santa Maria
Everglades on the Bay
Paramount on the Bay
Jade

NewAtlantisMiami

Sep 21, 2009, 6:17 AM

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Complex01

Sep 22, 2009, 2:26 AM

:previous:

I could so live in one of those. So Nice...

:yes:

NewAtlantisMiami

Sep 27, 2009, 6:53 PM

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NewAtlantisMiami

Sep 27, 2009, 6:57 PM

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pablosan

Sep 28, 2009, 2:58 AM

Just amazing.

NewAtlantisMiami

Nov 16, 2009, 6:16 PM

These were taken just this weekend.

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NewAtlantisMiami

Nov 16, 2009, 9:14 PM

Urbanity and the skyline at ground level are improving.

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NewAtlantisMiami

Nov 29, 2009, 1:27 AM

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bobdreamz

Dec 6, 2009, 6:35 AM

nice pics New Atlantis and is that the Miami Int'l book fair with the tents downtown?
Anyways I came across a couple of pics:

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^ I love this night time shot of the skyline. Who says downtown Miami's condos are all empty?

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^ The skyline at dusk and it seems it must have been taken from a cruise ship leaving the Port of Miami.

1st is is by 305 lover. 2nd is by barfolomew at SSC.

Complex01

Dec 8, 2009, 7:44 PM

Nice was just there. Loved it. :tup:

NewAtlantisMiami

Dec 11, 2009, 11:19 AM

Those shots above that I took from the roof of Met2 are no longer possible.

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Urban Sky

Dec 15, 2009, 6:11 PM

great pictures everyone! :tup:

MIAMISKYLINE

Jan 5, 2010, 3:13 AM

miami ftw

Kingofthehill

Jan 5, 2010, 4:33 AM

Cuba never looked this good.

Keep up all the fabulous updates, guys. Can't wait 'till my next visit (June).

bobdreamz

Jan 12, 2010, 6:02 AM

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these pics were taken from the Cape Florida lighthouse which is situated on Key Biscayne southeast from Miami (pics courtesy by Quantum X)

pj3000

Jan 12, 2010, 7:44 PM

^ Cool

brickell

Jan 14, 2010, 4:28 PM

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2010/01/04/focus6.html

The architects behind Miami’s iconic Espirito Santo building are working to design an 84-story glass tower for Spain-based Banco Santander’s site on Brickell Avenue.
New York City-based Khon Pederson Fox Associates (KPF) won a contest to design the building, the company confirmed. But Banco Santander officials have wanted to keep the details of the Miami project under wraps.

see http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=177480

JDRCRASH

Jan 22, 2010, 6:55 AM

975 Meter Superscraper In Miami Could Steal Dubai's Crown

20. JAN, 2010

Plans have been floated for a new superscraper in Miami that could steal the world’s tallest crown from Dubai’s Burj Khalifa.

Despite Miami’s financial woes, having a reported 100,000 plus properties in foreclosure according to the Miami Herald, Kobi Karp has submitted designs for Miapolis - a ‘city within a city’ planned for Watson Island.

The 160 storey building would be more than 183 metres higher than the Burj Khalifa if built and would house an amusement park, observatory, restaurants, 1.96 million sq ft of shops, over 1000 apartments, 1 million sq ft office space and a 792 room hotel.

The project has been around for more than a decade but it is reported that developer Guillermo Socarras has been in talks with the Federal Aviation Administration to secure approval for the height of the tower.

The project is currently looking for funding from investors.

Renders:

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Source: http://www.decodedstuff.com/975-meter-superscraper-in-miami-could-steal-dubais-crown/

brickell

Jan 22, 2010, 2:24 PM

Not in my lifetime it won't, but we can dream.

HomrQT

Jan 22, 2010, 3:14 PM

Not in my lifetime it won't, but we can dream.

If New York or Chicago can't get the job done, it's time for another US city to carry the torch. Go Miami!!!

HuBu

Jan 22, 2010, 3:15 PM

Not in my lifetime it won't, but we can dream.

That's what I am thinking considering the impact that a hurricane would have on that building.

Is there a thread for buildings in Sunny Isles?

photoLith

Jan 22, 2010, 6:38 PM

Yeah, Im about sure that that thing will ever get built.

futuresooner

Jan 22, 2010, 9:19 PM

Why even post this piece of crap?

skyscraperfan23

Jan 30, 2010, 11:41 PM

Source: http://www.decodedstuff.com/975-meter-superscraper-in-miami-could-steal-dubais-crown/

This will look nice.

BrandonJXN

Jan 31, 2010, 12:04 AM

This will look nice.

Only thing nice about it is the fountains.

Urban Sky

Feb 10, 2010, 7:40 PM

Only thing nice about it is the fountains.

even those are ugly. just forget about this project. what a joke.

FerrariEnzo

Feb 10, 2010, 7:54 PM

waste of bandwidth discussing this project

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 12, 2010, 1:25 AM

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simms3_redux

Feb 12, 2010, 1:44 AM

Wow.

Who are some of the tenants going in there?

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 12, 2010, 4:11 AM

Wow.

Who are some of the tenants going in there?

I'm not sure. All I care is that it got built.

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NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 12, 2010, 4:21 AM

Wow.

Who are some of the tenants going in there?

Don't know! Don't care! Just build it!

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brickell

Feb 12, 2010, 5:53 AM

Wow.

Who are some of the tenants going in there?

Of course it matters who is there. Empty buildings are pretty pointless.

With 3 office towers going up there's a big fight for tennants. Last I heard Met2 is getting the Greenberg Traurig Law firm and a few others. I don't know that anybody will be big enough to get naming rights though. The back half of the building will be a JW Marriot Hotel.

Here's a couple of old articles on it. With the economy, I assume everything's in flux though.
http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2009/08/31/daily16.html
http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2009/02/16/daily72.html

pj3000

Feb 12, 2010, 7:20 AM

Awesome! I can see the roof of my house (I think). Thanks for the great photos!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2627/4349636078_862a0e827e_b.jpg

bobdreamz

Feb 12, 2010, 9:16 AM

simms3_redux

Feb 12, 2010, 5:37 PM

Of course it matters who is there. Empty buildings are pretty pointless.

With 3 office towers going up there's a big fight for tennants. Last I heard Met2 is getting the Greenberg Traurig Law firm and a few others. I don't know that anybody will be big enough to get naming rights though. The back half of the building will be a JW Marriot Hotel.

Here's a couple of old articles on it. With the economy, I assume everything's in flux though.
http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2009/08/31/daily16.html
http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2009/02/16/daily72.html

Thanks. I think it matters, too.

RuFFy

Feb 12, 2010, 7:13 PM

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pj3000

Feb 12, 2010, 7:37 PM

I like that the Met2 makes a big impact on the skyline... not only with height, but moreso with color... the bright white condo towers with aqua-colored windows/balconies gets a little tired... variety is nice.

Complex01

Feb 13, 2010, 10:53 PM

Nics shots. Looking very good...

:tup:

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 14, 2010, 3:29 AM

fantastic aerials of Miami in the winter time! Was it cold up there New Atlantis?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4350491230_772fb965e2_b.jpg

I love this shot with the Brickell district on the left, the Miami River entrance in the middle & the CBD on the right!

It didn't feel as cold as it really was because the sun was really strong in the cockpit even though I had my door off.

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 14, 2010, 3:39 AM

Thanks. I think it matters, too.

Of course it matters! But I just want to photograph the building and the skyline, so how about "Thanks for the great photos" as PJ3000 said as well as the thanks to Brickell for your answer? Taking photos like these and being as generous as I am with them gets pretty exhausting.

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 14, 2010, 4:05 AM

Of course it matters who is there. Empty buildings are pretty pointless.

With 3 office towers going up there's a big fight for tenants.

And of course you know that's why I'm here. It doesn't matter to me what specific tenants are there, but filling those buildings so that we see more skyscraper construction in Miami is why I'm as generous with my photos as I am. I took up urban/architectural photography because I was not seeing the kinds of perspectives of the Miami skyline and its architecture that I wanted to see. Now I know it is because very few professional caliber photographers are as generous as I am. I'm actually compromising myself and doing myself and other photographers a disservice with the number of professional quality pictures I've placed on different threads and different websites, but for me it's about attracting more tourism and commerce to Miami through my photos and helping to create more jobs and more skyscraper development in an artistic way. Of course it matters that somebody is occupying a building, but who specifically is what I don't care about. More skyscraper development here in Miami is something I do care about.

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MIAMISKYLINE

Feb 14, 2010, 8:18 PM

You R The Man :)

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 14, 2010, 8:54 PM

You R The Man :)

Thank you! The last photo that you see above was just approved by Shutterstock for a total of 128 in my gallery there so far. It is precisely the perspective for which I chartered the seaplane to capture. I specifically asked the pilot if he could take me around the north side of Sunny Isles Beach so that I could attempt to get all three of Miami-Dade county's major skylines in one shot. This was the best I could do because I had too much zoom, but I'm quite happy with what I was able to capture. This aerial from above Virginia Key was also approved by Shutterstock.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4355518472_8b85aec129_b.jpg

simms3_redux

Feb 15, 2010, 5:37 AM

Of course it matters! But I just want to photograph the building and the skyline, so how about "Thanks for the great photos" as PJ3000 said as well as the thanks to Brickell for your answer? Taking photos like these and being as generous as I am with them gets pretty exhausting.

Well, Thanks for the photos! Haha, sorry, I really do appreciate them, but after years of viewing them I guess I have taken them for granted. :( How do you even have the time to take that many photos?

And maybe I am alone, but I want to go into real estate and so I have been tracking what firms are moving into what kind of office space and rents, cap rates, etc. So to me the mix of tenants, what floors they are going on, and how much they are paying (and who the investors are) is interesting to me.

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 15, 2010, 4:32 PM

Well, Thanks for the photos! Haha, sorry, I really do appreciate them, but after years of viewing them I guess I have taken them for granted. :( How do you even have the time to take that many photos?

And maybe I am alone, but I want to go into real estate and so I have been tracking what firms are moving into what kind of office space and rents, cap rates, etc. So to me the mix of tenants, what floors they are going on, and how much they are paying (and who the investors are) is interesting to me.

On my regular job, I work graveyard, so I have a lot of free time during the afternoon after I wake up. That really is how I'm able do it. Ah, so you want to go into real estate for the office market. Hopefully, by the time you are ready, there will be lots for you to do. We are in a slump right now for sure, but I'm doing my best to keep interest alive through the duration and beyond. The idea is to attact more commerce to the city, whatever firms they may be, by putting as many desirable images as I can out there. I even sent pictures of 1450 Brickell to Prudential because I think it makes a good corporate symbol for them. Never heard back from the them, but the idea is to put Miami out there as the place to be in the 21st century.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4256580770_587db9af57_b.jpg

brickell

Feb 16, 2010, 9:00 PM

More skyscraper development here in Miami is something I do care about.

Can't we just leave it at that?

brickell

Feb 18, 2010, 12:06 AM

The Orange Bowl take 2 aka The new Marlins Stadium

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pj3000

Feb 18, 2010, 12:12 AM

Can't wait to see a game there... though I do miss seeing my 'Canes play at the OB.

HuBu

Feb 25, 2010, 3:29 PM

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w00t shots of the Jades. I have been waiting for this. Thank you.

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 25, 2010, 11:32 PM

Can't we just leave it at that?

If that is enough for you, but of course! And what you are responding to here was the last sentence of my last post that was in direct response to you. In my other posts that followed, I was responding to other people. :) :cheers:

NewAtlantisMiami

Feb 26, 2010, 12:17 AM

w00t shots of the Jades. I have been waiting for this. Thank you.

You are welcome! Then, maybe you like these too! The first one came out a bit blurred, but I liked the perspective anyway. Since this is the Miami Development thread after all, I'm only posting them here because you expressed an interest.

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NewAtlantisMiami

Mar 5, 2010, 12:08 PM

2004
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2010
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4407885413_b8f9be08a9_b.jpg

bobdreamz

Mar 9, 2010, 5:16 AM

^ what an amazing difference in 6 years!

FerrariEnzo

Mar 9, 2010, 5:35 AM

Indeed. Just need some height to punctuate that plateau.

JDRCRASH

Mar 9, 2010, 6:04 AM

Why even post this piece of crap?

Same reason other pie-in-the-sky ideas are posted...

waste of bandwidth discussing this project

It's on topic, so how in the world is it a waste of bandwidth? Really this is ridiculous. Whether it's a vision or not is irrelevant. It's in Miami, and that's what matters.

BrandonJXN

Mar 9, 2010, 3:51 PM

2004
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2010
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A 950 foot tall building would look perfect between the bap on the Biscayne Wall and a 1,200 foot tall building near the 4 Seasons. QUICK...someone do some photoshopping.

NewAtlantisMiami

Mar 9, 2010, 7:33 PM

A 950 foot tall building would look perfect between the bap on the Biscayne Wall and a 1,200 foot tall building near the 4 Seasons. QUICK...someone do some photoshopping.

This is part of what is planned, in case you missed it. An 840 feet tall building is now planned to go next to the Four Seasons, and BFC II is planned at 903 feet tall on the north end of the Brickell Financial District in addition to these two projects. They are still saying they are going to build Met3 at some point. The construction company for Met2 said work was scheduled to start on at least the foundation and parking garage for Met3 as soon as Met2 is completed.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4419959087_b487bdc6ab_o.jpg

MolsonExport

Mar 18, 2010, 7:15 PM

The Most glamourest city of all time.

no, that would be Decatur,

:D

MolsonExport

Mar 18, 2010, 7:16 PM

Miami continues to be the most stylish cities in the world.

how many cities are miami?

skyscraperfan23

Mar 18, 2010, 10:16 PM

This is part of what is planned, in case you missed it. An 840 feet tall building is now planned to go next to the Four Seasons, and BFC II is planned at 903 feet tall on the north end of the Brickell Financial District in addition to these two projects. They are still saying they are going to build Met3 at some point. The construction company for Met2 said work was scheduled to start on at least the foundation and parking garage for Met3 as soon as Met2 is completed.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4419959087_b487bdc6ab_o.jpg

This would put miami even higher.

MolsonExport

Mar 20, 2010, 6:18 PM

^dude, we are just craving a follow up post from you in your "big Announcement" thread (thread of the year, possibly).

Prahaboheme

Mar 23, 2010, 4:05 AM

What is Miami's "big announcement?"

brickell

Mar 23, 2010, 5:25 PM

^ Check the skybar for the "Big Announcement".
It's laugh out loud funny and doesn't really have anything to do with Miami.

Urbannizer

Mar 28, 2010, 5:17 PM

Miami WorldCenter

http://www.miamiworldcenter.com/

http://www.elkus-manfredi.com/project/miami-worldcenter/

http://www.elkus-manfredi.com/upload/attachment/MWC_Broch.pdf

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Edit: Okay, I just found out this is not new. Well its new to me.

skyscraperfan23

Mar 28, 2010, 7:54 PM

colemonkee

Mar 28, 2010, 8:26 PM

^ Wouldn't hold your breath on this one. It is pretty nice, though.

Complex01

Mar 29, 2010, 12:39 AM

Wow that is just an incredible. Very Kewl if this one rises. Very Kewl...

:tup:

bobdreamz

Mar 29, 2010, 4:51 AM

well this project has the land already assembled however I don't know it's current status. This would go up just west of the Biscayne boulevard wall of the new skyscrapers recently built and would absolutely transform the entire area.Right now it's just lowrise warehouses and parking lots.

skyscraperfan23

Mar 30, 2010, 1:19 AM

Prahaboheme

Mar 30, 2010, 3:07 PM

Miami World Center is the first encouraging, urban district plans we've seen for downtown Miami. This type of development is exactly what is needed to encourage pedestrianization; mixed use, mid and high rise structures that mesh seamlessly together with plazas and street level activity.

I hope it does come to be, though it's looking a bit discouraging right now.

pj3000

Mar 30, 2010, 3:21 PM

I'd love to see this happen. Miami needs a real urban center like this in its downtown core in order to become a legitimate world-class city. Watching Miami's urban transformation and seeing these plans for a massive development project in this long-neglected area are exciting. One thing though... Biscayne Blvd. needs to be tamed... don't let it turn into another Lakeshore Dr. like Chicago has separating the downtown from the waterfront. This is very important as downtown Miami development moves forward.

NewAtlantisMiami

Mar 30, 2010, 9:16 PM

Okay, I just found out this is not new. Well its new to me.

While the project itself might not be new to me, these renderings you posted are, and I thank you for them. :tup:

bobdreamz

Apr 22, 2010, 6:00 AM

Another condo tower in the Brickell district will break ground in 2 weeks. This is being built on top of the Publix grocery store already on site.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6261/11198210.jpg

Address : 900 S. Miami Avenue
# of Units : 369 total with 240 units already pre-sold

details in the following article :

http://www.miamibeachcondosfl.com/2010/04/is-downtown-miami-ready-for-more-condos/

bobdreamz

Apr 22, 2010, 6:28 AM

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